Still hard at work
I have now moved back to my place, here in Lamia, Greece, since Easter vacation officially came to an end. Tomorrow (though the clock shows about 1am) I'll be back on my regular schedule again.
Work on AutoPatcher goes on of course! Doing my part, I continue to improve/adjust things in AutoPatcher 5.6 as requested by the rest of the team. I have added support for DirectX as it may come handy for some modules. Office detection support is still being worked on, with more applications becoming supported (Office 2003 has reached the 100% supported mark, along with Office 2007). The release info screen is being changed to provide better information on the loaded releases and addon packs.
Lyndon is still working hard on the april release, which combined with the new AutoPatcher 5.6 core, should become what everybody hoped for. An interesting change is certainly the idea of dumping the Full/Lite scheme.
Right now Lyndon usually has to create two packages, usually being as heavy as 320MB for the Full and 270MB for the Lite. This of course translates into a lot of upload traffic for him. The new idea is to provide the Lite release along with an addon pack which would add the items which usually ship only with the Full one. That would mean 270MB for the Lite, along with a 50MB pack for those who want to have a Full release. The difference in bandwidth for Lyndon is an impressive (270+50) - (270+320) = -270MB. If you take into account that he's not doing just 1 release, but 3 of them, that's a lot of saved bandwidth.
Lyndon likes to call this the "drop of the Lite release," although technically, it's the dump of the Full release. In any case, this new scheme will hopefully solve 3 problems:
1. Lyndon's upload bandwith
2. A better understanding of the releases (as opposed to the usual confusion around Full and Lite releases). I think that "Core and Extras" is less confusing than "Full and Lite".
3. Perhaps less bandwidth usage for our mirrors. This may sound a little odd, since most people go for the Full as I have seens by various server statistics. However, some people go for the Full, not knowing what the differences are. Just in case.
In the case of Windows XP, unfortunately, there has been no new service pack for about 3 years (probably the longest ever period in Microsoft's history). As much as we'd like to pretend that bugs just didn't come up, facts would not agree. AutoPatcher's size has grown too much. Back in the day, a release would be about 150-200MB. This number has now doubled! We try to find ways to slim things down, but, unfortunately, we can't do magic.
Let us know what you think about this change. Which 'scheme' do you find less confusing?
Best regards,
Antonis Kaladis
April 15th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
i don’t care the size of the updates as long as my computer is patched.. :)
April 15th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
I definitely applaud the usage of a Core & Extras scheme rather than a Full & Lite (& Update) scheme. For one, it will definitely save bandwidth for those uploading (including the torrent trackers’ seeders and Lyndon) as well as giving people the options to choose what extras they are interested in.
As the patcher will soon include Office support, this will even become more evident as people can then download and mix different batches (didn’t want to use the word module or scheme) together. One example could be: Win2K SP4 UR1 Core + Win2k Specific Extras + Common Extras + Office 2003. Another one could be: WinXP SP2 Core + WinXP Specific Extras + Common Extras + Office 2007… You get my drift.
The best bit about using this scheme is that the Update idea can still be kept if necessary because then either a new separate is released (previous Update mode) or the updated batches re-released (previous Full mode).
Hope that my opinion helps with your decisions… Do remember that even though the Windows XP AutoPatcher is becoming large, SP3 on its own will become a veritable mammoth. So just remember to keep patting yourselves on your own backs and reminding yourself that you’re essentially doing Microsoft’s 2 to 4 year service pack job but on a monthly basis.
N.B: Good/better documentation and/or help/wiki would really help distinguish 5.6 from previous versions. Especially with respect to some of the registry tweaks.
April 15th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Personally, I never had any issues with the Full/Lite concept. But the core + extras is a good idea. I’ve been using Nov 2006 Lite with each subsequent month updates. My only real question for the new 5.6 core is will I be able to download an ‘April update’, or is the April release a new ‘Full’ download?
Mike
April 15th, 2007 at 7:28 pm
Wow nice job man, i have a quastion:
i find on the internet the new version of
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Adobe Flash Player 9.0.45.0
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i hope that it’s gonna be integrate on the April release :D
bye
April 15th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Well my opinions the same as everyone else’s I’m not bothered on the size of the update pack or core pack. as long as i know i can patch my computer and be up to date when i reformat im happy. and to be quite honist guys your doing a fabulous job. and besides i hear rumours that microsoft are dumping xp by the end of the year and might not even consider easing service pack 3 so were gonna need to rely on your autopatcher if this rumour is true. read and decide for yourself on what you think about service pack 3 look here:-
http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=39297
your doing great work auto patcher team. and look forward to seeing the new 5.6 core. all the best
April 15th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Frankly say I’m very keen to download the April complete (FULL) pack one, whatever it’s name would be. Pack size ain’t going to be an issue for me, just hoping the team will keep on releasing high quality packs. Thanx in advance.
BTW from what I knew, M$ would only end the OEM versions of XP by the end of the year, not the retail pack. In any case, I ain’t moving to the Vista-crap bandwagon anytime sooner than 5 years. DRM sucks.
April 16th, 2007 at 12:21 am
I agree Core + Extras is less confusing.
Now the question: does that mean you’re going to break things up into vital/important releases and put the optional/fun items in the Extras? That’s what I’m thinking you mean.
Or you could just break it up by date.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:09 am
About the Flash Player, I’ll send out a reminder to Lyndon.
The April release will be not be an Update. There are a lot of changes and we wouldn’t like to risk yet another update.
The idea is:
Core = Lite
Extras = Various addon packs which would normally only be included in the Full. (e.g. IE6 pack, WMP9 pack, Misc pack).
April 16th, 2007 at 1:46 am
First I would to thank you for the great job. If it was dpendent on me I would create smaller pakages and let the user select pakages from a menu. For example create a separate packge for registry twicks, A package for xp sp2 core till 2007 and small pacakges for Jan Feb or start with April and after that just create the small package for May etc., This will remove the need to upload the ms updates from Jun 2007 again and again. The same with Sep Etc. The menu can have an entry for combained package selections like core and extras that is in your plan.
April 16th, 2007 at 5:36 am
Thanks for the great job. I download every release you come up with, even if I have the latest updates. I find it useful :)
I agree that (Core + Extras) thing is a good step, but I’d always go for the full release no matter what size it is.
* Request: Can you guys link the check/uncheck boxes with install/uninstall that patch or addon please? I mean when I open Autopatcher.exe again, i want to be able to uninstall some of the updates and addons by unchecking the box beside that update. That would be very helpful because some addons can’t be uninstalled using normal methods.
But anyways, what you guys doing is really appreciated :) Thanks.
April 16th, 2007 at 6:40 am
I likewise agree that the Core + Extras is a nice idea…
April 16th, 2007 at 8:45 am
First, let me thank you for the remarkable quality of this necessary service. I also download the Full whenever it becomes available. That said, so long as there is a clear explantaion of what the components include, along the lines of what the user sees when selecting what to install from inside the current Full package, you should do whatever will work to your team’s best advantage.
Again, thanks very much for what you guys do.
Jon
April 16th, 2007 at 11:40 am
Hi
Maby i dont get it. Why not just a full release there can be updatet like it use to be? yes, there have to be downloadet at lot when you make a full but i have allways got it whit bittorrent. i got a 1mb upload so many get there autopatcher from me….
Keep up the god work ;-) Your all doing it so fucking god!
April 16th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
I agree with general cosensus… Core + Extras. This will be especially important for those of us on Dial-up :(
As I read it..Core = Patches(Critical and otherwise), Extras = stuff like WMP, IE, etc
M$ should have you on payroll, you doing their dirty work. My next move wil be from Win to Linux. Tired of M$ games, latest word is SP3 for XP might come out in 2008, but don’t hold your breath…it might kill you.
Keep up the great work…it IS appreciated by many!
.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Peter, for the user-side the only change is that instead of only downloading one file (the Full) you will be downloading two (Core + Extras). It’s hardly a lot of work :-)
Zexy, what gets moved to the Extras pack is something I have very little control over. There have been a lot of polls in the forum lately. Last I know was that things like .NET will remain in Core. We’ll be glad to hear more on this subject. Let us know what you’d like to keep in Core and what you’d move to Extras.
If we were on Microsoft’s payroll we’d probably be following directions rather than making them. Asking the users what they’d like would probably be out of the question.
About Linux. My advice:
1. Don’t give up. Things will probably look a little odd in the beginning. Just remember that it’s nothing more than a habit.
2. Don’t be afraid to ask. You can get around almost *any* problem you might encounter by following the good old search-find-read-understand-do-repeat sequence.
3. Don’t log in as root. Log in as a normal user. That’s something you should get used to, especially in the beginning. Don’t get overly excited with root console. Root comes with responsibility.
4. Don’t create a file called -rf.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
quote: “for the user-side the only change is that instead of only downloading one file (the Full) you will be downloading two (Core + Extras)”
actually thats not strictly true…
- most users will just need the ‘core’ release which is the same as previous lite releases but takes the place of both full and lite releases.
- the ‘extras’ pack will contain the stuff the full release had but the lite release didn’t, for those that want them
then there are other addon packs:
- xp mce2005, this adds xp mce2005 patches
- xp wmp10, this adds wmp10 and it’s patches (wmp11 and patches included in the xp core release)
- directx, this contains the latest directx installer (updated every two months), it comes in two flavours - x86 and x64
the core release will probably be updated every 3 or 4 months, and you’ll get update releases for it in-between.
for updates to the addon packs (inc ‘extras’) it would be way to confusing if there were update releases to those, so instead you’ll either have to download a newer copy of the pack, or if it’s a very small update and i can technically do it, i’ll include the update in the usual update releases and have the installer detect whether you have the addon pack installed before also installing an update to an addon pack.
two other things i’m going to do to make everything easier for the end user: 1) add a start page to the installer which will describe the release being installed, and 2) with Antonis’ permission, completely revise aspects of the website especially the download section.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Blaze, I have already seen the websites changes. Looks good!
April 16th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
You’re already packaging updates in a modular format, so why don’t you offer the Core download and then have an XML file that the client grabs via HTTP with extras? They can download anything else that they want on a case-by-case basis (host the modules and don’t bother packaging them), so you save bandwidth and the user saves time. Also if you have to change a single module, you only need to update an XML file as opposed to rebuilding every package.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
OK, I think too that Core/Extras is a better idea than Full/Lite although it wasn’t confusing for me. Personally I run into another problem. ‘Autopatching’ many computers then servicing them after some time could be difficult if there is not an obvious way to fast identify the type of autopatching (Full or Lite) or last ‘autopatcher’ applied. So I realize I downloaded often more that I really needed. I hope that Core/Extras distinction along with new features from AutoPatcher 5.6 core will address this issue, too.
April 16th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
I never saw the purpose in the “Lite” release. Either you want all the updates or you don’t. You download the Full once, and then the updates to it every month. I suppose there are some people that do not want everything updated, but not that many. I also do not understand the stats you gave for saving download size. Either you update all from November, which is what you would want to do from a fresh install, or you do not. All the “heavy add-ons” are almost all needed to make the OS work well for a user -save maybe Media Player in a business setup.
I would totally drop the Lite release, as most people need all the functionality in the first place. For example, what can you run in a browser without Java, or Flash, or Shockwave, or even IE7, etc.? All those are not “extras” in my book, but as important as the core upgrades. IE7, I suppose you could skip, but then so many other security upgrades will not work.
Just seems backwards thinking to me. How many people start from the beginning every time (November’s full?) Not anyone who knows how to use the program.
April 16th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Don’t drop the Lite/Core. Some people use AutoPatcher only for the essentials; we also just use the full refresh (Nov06) and let Automatic Updates pick up the rest. The only thing that would make it better is not having to install AutoPatcher before running it.
April 17th, 2007 at 12:59 am
All we can say out here in Tucson Arizona,U.S.A ..We tip our stetsons to you..The work you do is remarkable and commendable..We are proud to post your updates for our members to view and use..Also we would be more than willing to post a link to your site or mirrors if that would assist your cause..
April 17th, 2007 at 1:33 am
I agree with “lloyd” .The previous system of “LITE and UPDATE ” releases seemed the best to me . Their is no use of computer without add-ons ,registry tweaks ,optional and updated components .Also their would be very less people’s who would download only the LITE version.Hence if this system of LITE/CORE is followed it could be more troublesome.Therefore the moral of the story is to follow what was being done previously and just try to make some other improvements in Auto Patcher.
Anyhow I very much appreciate the work of the Auto Patcher Team……….
April 17th, 2007 at 2:50 am
what about SP2 for server 2k3. will this mean that there will be a entire new version for after SP2????
and yes sounds easier (add on packs).
April 17th, 2007 at 4:08 am
If I have to speak frankly, I don’t see the point in having “Lite”, “Full”, “Core”, “Extras”, and whatever… I’d make a unique release: “Autopatcher”.
Autopatcher XP
Autopatcher 2K3
Autopatcher Vista (why is not on the site, bytheway? :/ )
Autopatcher Office
To me, it’s best to have everything in one installer (since extras have little overhead compared to “lite”), and then -I- choose WHAT to install.
Don’t like Flash Plugin, Zune Theme? Very simple: do not check them in the installation process.
Do you need only to install Flash Plugin, or want to install Zune Theme (hint, hint) to your friend? Unchek all critical updates and check only these.
Maybe you can put in different profiles (”standard”, “only critical”, “custom”), to make things EVEN simpler!
About simplify thing: if you want to put in XP PowerToys, for example, I’d like to have ALL of them (not 12/14), and maybe everyone under the same hive (TweakUI IS a PowerToy).
I didn’t see Adaptec ASPI neither Visual Basic 6 Runtimes.
That’s my idea.
But, if you prefer the Core/Extras way, it is good for me, too.
Whatever way you give me to offline update XP, I would be happy!
April 17th, 2007 at 6:38 am
ΜπÏάβο παιδιά, συνεχίστε τη καλή δουλειά. Είστε άπαιχτοι.Ολος ο κόσμος πεÏιμÎνει την επόμενη Îκδοση σας !
April 17th, 2007 at 6:58 am
the best would be if Bill Gates gives a SP3 for XP. Most people will run XP for a while (? maybe a year or two). Make two versions one for dialup (core + extras), and one for broadband users (full with all). I want one file to download. But cheers for all people bringing this great software to life, and help make my life easier patching 10 XP installations.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:09 am
I like the “Core and Extras” idea as well. As you’ve pointed out, it saves bandwidth on your team’s end, and from where I sit it only adds a minor, negligible inconvenience for those of us (myself included) accustomed to the Full releases.
I did not mention in my previous post, in the last blog entry. But I am a happy Office XP (Office 2002) user, although I do have a license to use Office 2003. The reason I do not use a newer release is I like Microsoft Photo Editor so much, and its 2003-and-newer replacement Microsoft Picture Manager does not sufficiently replace Photo Editor. I do not know if there is a way to get Photo Editor separately (or if it is even legal to ask), but I would be interested in an Office AutoPatcher if it supported Office XP.
Some people are suggesting what should go in and what shouldn’t. I love how you included PowerMenu, I think it’s called. It adds functionality pretty seamlessly. Dir2Text or Dir2File or whatever, though, is worthless to me - it only lists the directories. Once I used such a program that could list all files, even in subdirectories, and it was freeware. Such a program would be better. And other stuff like that. I also like what XPize is doing - maybe you’ve heard of it - but with that package, I uncheck half the stuff it offers. The boot and shutdown screens, as well as the wallpaper, are garbage, but the logon screen is really nice, and like AutoPatcher, it adds the Royale theme, but it patches uxtheme.dll; I’m not sure if AutoPatcher does that.
Anyway, keep up the good work.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:37 am
Nathan, we have chosen not to include ‘hacks’ which mess around with system files such as the uxtheme.dll or tcpip.sys. The reason for this is that it would be very close if not the same as distributing altered files. We try to keep AutoPatcher as clean as possible.
April 18th, 2007 at 6:25 am
Firstly thanks for providing the best solution in bringing a PC up to date.
Secondly can’t wait for the new Xp release, I mean I really can’t wait !!!; could we just have a hint (not “wid”) when it may be released. end of April? or sooner? Anyway, I’ll take full with core and don’t hold the extras; one with the lot thanks, to go. Go go go !
Are we there yet, Are we there yet.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
I agree with every one
Core = patches , critical and related
Extras = the other stuff
But i have a question, I have FULL since september 2006…
…the updates will be working the same?
And will be released a new full/lite as core/extras oficially?
April 19th, 2007 at 1:19 am
Would AutoPatcher 5.6 be released this month(April) . I Have to reinstall my operating system
April 19th, 2007 at 4:39 am
Last I used A/P was a year ago when I have reinstalled my XP. Excellent piece of work.
Looks like I have to use it very soon, IE 6 pops up numerous windows now and then.
Core + Extra
Or
Full + Lite
will be fine.
Although I am anxious to see the birth of this “baby” too, I suggest we give the guys some rooms. It will be here. Hang in there, everyone.
April 19th, 2007 at 6:41 am
I never understood this “wasted bandwidth” thing.
The only thing I can think of is that some places charge by bandwidth amount — more bandwidth = more money. If you’re in one of these places… well.. sorry. :)
If that’s NOT the case, then this ‘wasted bandwidth’ thing is hogwash. I think the idea of not having a full/complete release, in this case, is a terrible one.
My preference, will of course, be to have an absolute FULL or COMPLETE release. Always. Every time. It’s what makes sense by design.
If bandwidth is a monetary limitation, then it is understandable for you to look for alternative release types. But perhaps, rather than altering the structure of the release, you could explore different methods? Did you think of alternatives, or instantly jump to changing the release pattern?
All in all though, it’s your utility, and you’ll do what you feel like doing.
April 19th, 2007 at 7:45 am
@BeeTuna, our mirrors provide download locations and bandwidth to us for free and pay for it off their own back. the main reason for reducing the amount of data they have to transfer is an effort to reduce the amount of money they are loosing proving you all with our software.
I know one major solution to all this would be to completely switch to torrents, but not everyone uses or likes torrents (can’t see why myself), they like the good old http mirrors.
April 19th, 2007 at 9:19 am
I give you my word. We’d love to make a huge package which would include anything and everything. If you can solve the following problems we’ll be glad to make an Ultra Full release:
1. Releases are created by team members. Not everybody has or can afford an ultra fast Internet connection in order to upload the releases. It’s not only a matter of bandwidth (well, it is for those who have a bandwidth-cap) but also a matter of speed. For crying out loud, I live in Greece. I’m 20 years old, I’m living alone and I’m studying computer science. I’ve got a 768/192 DSL connection at my place, which is, as far as my studies are concerned, more than enough. How long would it take for me to upload 5GB of stuff? Do the math.
2. I’ll let you in on a little secret. Back when autopatcher.com was the main download mirror (note: not the only mirror, just one of the mirrors) it was projecting around 6TB/month bandwidth usage. And that was back when releases were 150MB each, not 300 as they are now. As much as we’d love to offer fast, direct downloads for everyone, hosting doesn’t come cheap. I don’t care *where* you come from, 6TB/month will cost. Take into account that our mirrors offer their bandwidth for free, and you got one hell of a deal.
3. Even if problems 1 & 2 are solved tomorrow by some magic, there’s always those who just don’t like to download 2GB of stuff when in reality they only wanted 1/10th of what’s included. As I said, not everybody has super fast connections. You should be thankful that bandwidth is not a problem for you.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
use uharc gui 3.06 to make it small…or 7-zip
April 19th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
NSIS already has compressors. I use LZMA (solid).
April 19th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
I’d like to reiterate everyone elses’ comments; Autopatcher is a MARVELOUS product.
1. “Core” and “Extras” sounds fine.
2. You say that M$ hasn’t come out with a service pack for Windows XP. Isn’t Vista just an expensive service pack? :-)
April 20th, 2007 at 9:04 am
Antonis Kaladis did you say 20 years old ! My god !
At that age it was fast cars and all the rest. Is this the way these days, what’s happened to our youth. Please enjoy life, you’re still in school ! it’s all about fun. Next holiday, go for a damn holiday this time. Now I know how nutty professors become nutty. (lol)
Oh, and can’t wait for the release still !
April 20th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Yep, 20. I started AutoPatcher when I was 17.
Don’t worry, I’m far from becoming a ‘nutty’ professor. Though others have also said that I grew up too fast too soon. I like going out and having fun just like any other 20 year old guy. The only difference is that I know more about computers than the average Joe.
I have used computers for as long as I can remember myself. I can even recall my favorite command, “catalog” on Apple II. I grew up with DOS, and by the age of 11 I started to get interested in how operating systems and applications work, which led me to programming. By the age of 12 I had Internet access at home (1998) which got me interested in networks. Pretty much the story of my life.
I have had plenty of fun along the way in my real life. As far as my ‘computer’ life goes, the only fun part I can remember is back when I was playing Motorhead (pc game) online. If you google a little, you might find more info about that part of my life.
Antonis
edit: cr*p, I just noticed that mhtools.knoware.nl is dead :(
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pm
when will the autopatcher xp definetly come out?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:03 am
I have reinstall WINDOWS XP on my computer and I have AUTOPATCHER FEBRUARY Full. Should I install Autopatcher or wait for April Full Autopatcher.
Help
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 am
first of all thank you for your best work..congrulations
secondly .why don’t you chose volintiers for assist you from any country..
BTW we are waitin for april release..:-)
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:37 am
I’d say, take your time, guys!
I would by far prefer a late but stable release, than a rushed out bug-full stuff (leave that for MS, they’re the best :-D )
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:17 am
Dusktilldawn,
But we do! Check the about page. For example, eople from the Netherlands do the Dutch releases etc. Members of the AutoPatcher Team if spread across Europe by the way. As far I can recall, we don’t have anyone from the United States, at least not it active development (programming & releases).
To those asking about the release date,
Read the title of this post again :-) Lyndon’s working his ass off, so please be patient! I guess the only answer I can provide is… soon!
April 24th, 2007 at 12:51 am
The greek autopatcher site is down… Anybody knows where I can find the greek version? Or even how to *make* one?
Thanx!
April 24th, 2007 at 6:31 am
Dear developers/promoters,
you all are doing gr8 job. Its a great boon to those who are not connected to Internet or are offline. Please continue your Gr8 work.
Waitin for u’re upcominn release…
April 24th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Still shooting for an April release, or are we looking at May? April’s coming to an end.. and fast!
I’ve been putting off some system maintenance in anticipation for a new full release. Where can I find some more detailed notes on your progress? I don’t like blindly putting things off, and having to explain it to people! Are you posting any more progress reports or some sort of estimated time table, or at least a goal?
April 24th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Actually I do concern about package size, iF and only iF the “Lite version” packed size exceeds 20 GigaBytes (old comps, yeah yeah)
Don’t you consider using packages other than msi/msp? gpl nsis, lgpl(?) spoon or propr ghost maybe? OK maybe you badly wish to be as compatible as possible, I’ll drop my suggestion then.
I’ve been looking forward to obtaining the hard copy (CD?) as 56kbit modem+lowBW provider is a pain in the buttocks
Seems that your “progress report” is not regularly updated, you must be at tooo heavy work. You need a time to hibernate your ide things and take an afternoon walk to have a glass of guava juice or two (or tropical papayas! believe me it’s good as long as remain fresh and you’re not fruit allergic)
April 25th, 2007 at 4:23 am
oh god !!
25th April
Still wait….
may be….
next main releases is May 2k7
and
i don’t care about upload traffic.
i’ll get only full.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:26 am
Still shooting for an April release, or are we looking at May? April’s to an end in 5 day!
April 25th, 2007 at 4:28 am
Congrats on an excellent prog.
I have made mirror server ready for large downloads of new releases.
Been around 350GB month transfer of old packages.
Bring it on…..
Remember though to use a Download Manager!!!
April 25th, 2007 at 7:58 am
no problem with the size. as long as my pc is patched. ah and i want to thank you people for “send to tray” feature. thats cool. whenever chatting and somebody comes in my room. hiding chat window is just “alt+space+z” away.
but i was looking forward to something they have in msn messenger. the messenger lock feature. if you can add a feature which locks a window just as msn plus does to msn messenger. when i press “ctrl+space” (depending on ur config.) that would be really really cool.
anyway. good job. i wonder how you people are stillll free. :P
c u next time
God Bless.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:52 am
Thank you Antonis and Lyndon!
I support Autopatcher by leaving my Azureus bittorrent client up full time. This makes the releases available to others without further bandwidth expense to Antonis and Lyndon. I encourage everyone to do the same.
One of the popular Bittorrent clients is Azureus (now called Vuze). You can get it here:
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
April 26th, 2007 at 1:44 am
I really appreciate the work done by Antonis and Lyndon to craete such a beautiful product as Autopatcher..
April 26th, 2007 at 5:41 am
Don’t worry about sizes of the Core and Extra pack. I just download it at school. Got 2 love 2 GB flash drives.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:38 am
oh god !!
oh son of god !!
oh sister of god !!
oh father of god !!
27th April
Still wait….
may be….
next main releases is May 2k7
Still shooting for an April release, or are we looking at May? April’s to an end in 3 day!
April 26th, 2007 at 9:03 am
ALMOST (READY) MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE !
It’s end of aprir 2007 and You will have to chage the progress bar AGAIN!
And now it will be AutoPatcher MAY 2007 Progress:, then AutoPatcher JUN, JULY 2007 Progress:
AND SO ON, and on ….
Till now everybody thought that You Guys are 1000% reliable, but I doubt in it now.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:44 am
Don’t sweat it.
This is what happens with freeware, folks. They aren’t getting paid to do this, and as a result, timelines can suffer. Work with what you have now if need be, and realize that it will be ready when it’s ready.
(Of course, if they’re receiving billions in donations, I might think differently. ;) )
A slower, less predictable release schedule, certainly beats having to pay for it, in my opinion.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:46 am
thank you very much for your work !
April 26th, 2007 at 11:04 am
If you can not wait, just do
Nov06Full+Dec06Update+Jan07Update+Feb07Update+Apr/May07Full (WID).
Better to get stable release; those pre-Mar A/P are proven, if you want only the Mar /Apr patches from MS, just download those from MS website for the time being, provided you are not using genuine copy.
Will be great to see Office A/P too.
April 26th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
“we” wont have to change anything. the progress bar, for the 1000th time, is generated by a php script. which means its just a guess. it will change to may automatically on may 1st.
someone has not been following the news posts. we are switching to a new core version. that means a lot of work for us, and frankly, we do have a life to live.
as far as i’m concerned i don’t see how our ‘reliability’ has changed a bit. we have always worked on a ‘when-its-ready’ basis. we are normally quite fast, and usually beat the progress bar.
autopatcher is moving to a completely new core, rewritten from zero, with little to no backwards compatibility and tons of added stuff for those making modules. as if that wasn’t enough, Lyndon is not just porting the modules, but is rewriting them in order to provide better detection etc.
sorry for this reply, i usually avoid stating the obvious, but some comments make me wonder why on earth i’m still doing what i’m doing…
May 4th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
Hi,
Antoni (and the other Team members), thanks very much for your GREAT work!!!
I want to help Nathan - post # 28 of April 18th, 2007 at
http://www.autopatcher.com/91#comment-2189.
He says:
“I am a happy Office XP (Office 2002) user, although I do have a license to use Office 2003. The reason I do not use a newer release is I like Microsoft Photo Editor so much, and its 2003-and-newer replacement Microsoft Picture Manager does not sufficiently replace Photo Editor. I do not know if there is a way to get Photo Editor separately (or if it is even legal to ask), but I would be interested in an Office AutoPatcher if it supported Office XP.”
I was in the same situation and I solved the problem using my own logic. My solution works perfectly. And it is so simple!
Tell Nathan to e-mail me using my home address - I’ll send him the steps. Antoni, I authorize you to disclose my address to Nathan ONLY if you also want to help him (through me). I don’t want to make my solution public. (I am not sure for 100% if it’s perfectly legal but I think it is.)
WKK
May 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
Hi Guys,
Really Thank you ver much for the really good work!
And never mind the complainers. Let them go elswere or do it themselves.
Bye,
Rob
May 21st, 2007 at 5:42 am
@ Antonis and the rest of the AP team
in reaction to the following quote;
Quote: “Antonis Kaladis Says:
sorry for this reply, i usually avoid stating the obvious, but some comments make me wonder why on earth i’m still doing what i’m doing…”
To me its imaginable that reading so much more or less “negative” or “impatient” comments gets a bit disheartening.
For the rest of us, i can only subscribe to all the woo and thank you’s.
As to your question? Why are you (and the rest of the AP team) doing what youre doing? To my opinion its chivalry, and the righteous feeling that you provide what MS should have.
Dont be offended by the few almost disrespectfull remarks being made here because the new core takes quite a bit longer than expected.
Better feel proud after you read the download statistics for the new releases!
This leaves me with one Q. though. Since a few weeks i only get to see the Italian flag on localized instances of AP in the DL page. Is this due to a glitch on the DL page or is Firefox not supported 100%?
To summarize it all…
Keep it up and know you are supported in many ways other than just comments!
Henk
May 29th, 2007 at 12:57 am
Now that the fact tomorrow shall come a great joy towards me! The future released product shall be definitely worth the spent time! Looking forward to the CD!
The chosen one has come… the second Messiah of Windows Operating System