The next day (What’s in store)
We're slowly recovering from the shock. Two things are apparent to us at this point:
- Microsoft won't re-evaluate.
- Those who use AutoPatcher, love it.
Allow me to use this opportunity to do a little brainstorming. It will be a long post, but it might give you some insight or even food for thought...
I have been hearing quite a few concerns about this being connected to WGA. Let me try to explain some things:
AutoPatcher uses administrative (a.k.a. network install) updates. This way AutoPatcher is portable (like the administrative updates) while being fast and friendly (like Windows Update). The nature of these updates is that you only need to download them once, and then deploy them to any number of systems. As you probably know, some downloads are only available after validation (WGA). The validation, however, was only done on the system where the update is downloaded -- not the one where it is installed. This holds true to this day.
Back in August 2005, I had stated that administrative updates had effectively become a circumvention method of WGA, by Microsoft's WGA itself!. I also wondered, at the time, why they didn't just add the WGA check on the updates' installation routine. In my eyes, they created a big mess on the download site, the made downloading painful and above all, totally incompatible with everything. Had they added the WGA check in the installation routine, they would have certain (to my eyes important) advantages -- namely: 1. The download center would still be clean and compatible 2. The WGA check would be done on each and every machine it was installed on. (I'll talk about this a little more)
The fundamental problem about the validation process is that it is not so much an algorithmic function. It's not something a computer can do on it's own. It's web-based. If the system has no Internet connection, the check just won't be done. This has it's share of advantages, but it is probably one of the reasons why Microsoft chose to do this the way we see it today. Forcing a check on the download page makes for 1 check. Forcing a check on the installation routine could make for 1000s. But since it can only be online, those could even be 0 (if none of the systems are online). So the right question is why didn't they implement the WGA check on both [the download process and the installation routine].
That is of course if WGA was meant to be a 100% solution. However, as Microsoft has said, WGA was never intended to be a 100% solution against piracy and was merely an educational tool. Microsoft believes that a lot of those who own pirated Microsoft software are actually unaware of this fact.
Now let me address some other concerns I have heard over the past few days.
It seems Microsoft's concern is a security one. And I have read comments from people who believe that Microsoft did well to put an end to this, because they just don't trust AutoPatcher.
Fair enough. It's is a little funny however, that they take sides when they have never used or even seen AutoPatcher. And I can't help to wonder if they are just some kids who think they know everything, hoping to grow up as self-proclaimed administrators of some sort.
In any case, AutoPatcher has had its own security features for years now. You should keep in mind that we are above all, users. We hate malicious software just as much as everyone here does. AutoPatcher has been a hobby for us. Not a job. We never relied on AutoPatcher for income. We have had our share of offers from companies who seek to bundle their dodgy software in freeware utilities. We have always ignored these. Not only have we kept a good name for almost four years (which is obviously because we used Microsoft's original patches and never did any hacks on them) but we have done our very best to ensure that nobody else can use our monthly releases to spread their own malicious software. We are proud to say that we have kept a clean sheet :)
AutoPatcher's "target-group" (I hate marketing, so excuse the term) is rather interesting. Though I have seen it be used by ordinary people, I believe the real value can only be seen when used by techies or real-life administrators.
You see, I have been the "techie" for years and friends regularly called in with all kinds of problems. Frequently I had to go over and clean up their PCs and download updates. Only problem was, they had a 56k connection.
AutoPatcher was started around the time of the so called Blaster worm. It was actually quite a shocking point in the history of the Windows platform. Any Windows XP computer connected to the Internet was almost-instantaneously infected and required an update. Trouble was, how we you to get this update when connecting your computer to the Internet would trigger a nasty restart count-down? Yes, those who knew the where-abouts knew they could abort the restart sequence, but that's not something that the average Joe knows.
Right now my biggest concern is that people around the globe will start writing their own custom modules and start redistributing their own releases. AutoPatcher will automatically flag them as unofficial (one of the security features). But if we were to stop AutoPatcher, there would only be unofficial releases. And if end users can only choose between unofficial releases, it is very easy for one of them to actually spread malicious software.
The truth of the matter is, we don't want this to happen. And one easy way to stop that from happening, is to continue our work on AutoPatcher. Maybe not in its current shape and form, but still, we will be back soon (that much I guarantee).
I'd like to close this post with the following news:
Lyndon Brown, a member of the AutoPatcher team for the past 2+ years will be starting college, so he will be leaving the team. Lyndon has played an important role in AutoPatcher by maintaining the releases for Windows XP, 2003 and 2000, as well as taking care of translation packs, documenation, site and server related issues and so much more. We wish him the best of luck. We will sure miss him!
We will be working on a web-oriented solution which we hope will give use two great benefits: easier and more efficient upgrades and easier "all-in-one" creation. Since I'm in the middle of exams, I will probably start coding in about a week from today. Although we can't really provide an estimate on when the next AutoPatcher will be available, we will do our best to have everything ready (and above all Microsoft-free) just in time for an October release.
It was a long post, so if you read it, thank you for your time. We will appreciate your comments on this.
Best regards, Antonis Kaladis

September 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 pm
Good luck with the exams to Antonis and to Lyndon on his study.
I have been using AP for about 2 years. LOVE IT!
Keep up the good work!
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm
While we will wait so patiently for your next incarnation, I for one can not thank you guys enough. for all your products; I was and am a “multiple” user. I wish I could hire you 3 guys !!! I’ll be watching AP’s site for some extended time ……………..
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:07 pm
Folks, you guys have made it SO MUCH EASIER for me!
1000x thank you is not enough. All the best with your exams (they do remain important), and I know you’ll find a solution to get it solved and accepted by you-know-who.
Regards,
CG
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Well, if you’d like to kill some time while you wait, I wrote a sudoku game while on summer vacation… It’s a little special though… It’s not limited to the classic 9×9 tables :P Geeks like hex-udoku :) I was actually thinking of adding it to AutoPatcher as an easter egg…
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pm
I loved autopatcher for years. I’m the techie, and i really need this kind of tool. I’m sorry to see MS is trying to stop your work - but i’m sure there are clever ways to circumvent the problem: Let us download the patches (once) and use a new version of autopatcher to install them all together on many computers :-)
Again, thanks for your nice work. It’s not often (and i’m ashamed of that) that i take time to say thanks, but guys, you earned a thousand kudos from all the IT community. Seeya. Wag.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Very, very thanks Antonis, Lyndon - my virtual full functionality friends! Sorry, I don’t good speak English. AutoPatcher long time is my ( not only my) best computer friend. Just like a blackbird, I have been using AP for 2 years.
Good Luck!
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Remember guys, we are going to do our best to keep this project alive. :)
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Renato, this is a very importand and very good news! Thank You.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm
I’m IT manager and I really love Autopatcher it help me many times also its best way to install all microsoft patch without search for long time in microsoft website!
be advised that autopatcher is most complete set for updating windows.
Please keep up the best solution!
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Hello Guys,
Thank you so much for an excellent product. I can not say how much time your works has saved me personally. Microsoft has a lot of bad will out there because of the stunts they pull, Vista being the biggest as of late. Killing AP is just another log on the fire. Perhaps in your future project you can provide the program, but force users to provide the updates (hotfixes) and let them integrate them as they come out. Much the same way nlite works or ryansvm . I will keep an eye on AP.com
Thanks Again
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pm
It’s very important that people don’t think that AutoPatcher is dead, as many websites say. We are alive and working in solutions.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Thanks for some good news, and shame on MS!
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pm
Good luck with your studies Antonis and Lyndon.
Keep the faith and many thanks for your continued efforts.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:31 pm
I only heard about this project when the Microsoft controversy started, but I think I may have a solution. One thing you could do is make it open source, but then you run into the problem you already stated above. One other posibility, AutoPatcher could have an index of all the updates on Microsoft’s site. AutoPatcher could then download the updates in the same form you now have them bundled (to the directory of the user’s choice) and the use could then burn them to a CD. That way you don’t bundle any of Microsoft’s updates directly in your releases, and the user would still have the latest updates in a portable form. I know you would have to deal with the online validation issue, but the fact that most of your uses should have legitimate versions of Windows (I do) should make it much easier.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:34 pm
I also would like to thank you all for the great work. I realize how much of your time this must require, and I think we all want you to know how much we appreciate you work!
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:49 pm
I am one of those guys that everyone calls with their pc troubles and as such, I love AP and was saddened the hear the news.
I’m glad to know AP will be back, but a “web-oriented solution” sounds like it would defeat the purpose. I live in a rural area where most people either don’t have a net connection or they have dialup, even though cable and dsl are available.
I don’t mean to be negative, but if a net connection is going to be required to use AP in the future, then I think I’ll stick with applying updates with a batch file from my own homemade disc.
Maybe someone can elaborate on what is meant by “web-oriented solution.” Sounds like Windows Update to me.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:00 pm
SyntaxError, by web-oriented we mean a downloader (with some clever twists) which will fetch the required files to recreate autopatcher’s tree as it is today. Once done, you should have a perfectly portable folder. You will be able to transfer it to PCs without Internet as you can do today.
The only difference is that, instead of downloading one big file via your browser/download manager, you will be downloading many small ones via our own downloader. Once the downloading is done, everything remains as you know it.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:06 pm
I hope AP lives on. As a “techie” I need a way to updates, and send out new computers without having them sit on a bench updating all day. And looking at RyanVM’s solution isn’t much better. It is ALOT more work to get the same functionality as AP and its gonna take me awhile to learn it. Guess I will just have to use my August releases untill you figure out what your doing :(.
Good luck on Exams/College and hopefully after your exams you can figure out a solution that is good for M$ and us users.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:33 pm
don’t spare your time, make autopatcher with only custom updates and leave those official updates to microsoft
if they don’t let to update offline 100 or more pc we can always mass-update them (like in a office), if i was you, i’ll deactivate the auto update and do the update manually all the world united in the same moment
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Just a thought… couldnt Microsoft give you an offline program that does WGA? Well, they could, but that is if they want to. That way, before AutoPatcher runs, if does a check to see if in fact, the computer is WGA compliant… If they are not, then as the soup guy said, “NO SOUP FOR YOU!”.
I think that would be the most compliant solution that would keep the project alive, and on Microsoft’s side. MS legal, how about a deal here?
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Thanks Antonis!! I’m glad you want to solve this as I said in my comments to sad day I’m not very good with
creating (code?) I have learned to find and repair hardware problems as a hobby. I’m 64 and a retired truck driver from Kentucky with out a high school degree. My main interest in computers has been to repair them for my grandchildern and frinds and neighbors This almost always involves doing a clean install of windows and we are all stuck with dial-up with poor phone service 26.4K is a good connection here. Your Auto-Patcher cut downtime greatly I have kept a file of updates for years with easch update file numbered for sequence of install but it took hours to install indiviually. I’m now getting new computers to remove vista from (nobody here likes it) and very few computers that my friends and neighbors can afford are able to run it (current special is a VIA 1500Mhz with 512 mgs DDR) needless to say my dial-up is in constant use downloading drivers now. I tell everyone
buying a new computer to pick-up a copy of XP Home upgrade edition at the same time. I set up a computer over a year ago for Vista and ordered the Beta version from MS figuring I would need to learn it. I couldn’t keep it updated on my dial-up so I left it until they mailed me RC1 I tried again but became so disenchanted I finally removed it permantly. A few hardware Mfgs. are posting XP drivers for their new machines but most are not.. I could never tie up my connection for MS updates because of this.
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:09 pm
Thanks Antonis!! I’m glad you want to solve this as I said in my comments to sad day I’m not very good with
creating (code?) I have learned to find and repair hardware problems as a hobby. I’m 64 and a retired truck driver from Kentucky with out a high school degree. My main interest in computers has been to repair them for my grandchildern and frinds and neighbors This almost always involves doing a clean install of windows and we are all stuck with dial-up with poor phone service 26.4K is a good connection here. Your Auto-Patcher cut downtime greatly I have kept a file of updates for years with easch update file numbered for sequence of install but it took hours to install indiviually. I’m now getting new computers to remove vista from (nobody here likes it) and very few computers that my friends and neighbors can afford are able to run it (current special is a VIA 1500Mhz with 512 mgs DDR) needless to say my dial-up is in constant use downloading drivers now. I tell everyone
buying a new computer to pick-up a copy of XP Home upgrade edition at the same time. I set up a computer over a year ago for Vista and ordered the Beta version from MS figuring I would need to learn it. I couldn’t keep it updated on my dial-up so I left it until they mailed me RC1 I tried again but became so disenchanted I finally removed it permantly. A few hardware Mfgs. are posting XP drivers for their new machines but most are not so I have to search the web for them. I could never tie up my connection for MS updates because of this.
Best of luck on your new project I’m very hopful you are sucessful. I have to get my updates at the library which means if I miss any I’m out of luck. Our library has a limited number of computers I sometimes either have to wait or make a second trip.
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Just wanted to drop in and say thanks for all that AP has done for me and my small business. By spending your time on this project, you have saved me hundreds of hours and quite a bit of hair. I hope Microsoft will accommodate this project and realize its value not only to its consumers, but to them as well.
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:26 pm
It’s been a great 3 1/2 years (time I’ve been with and helping AP) and I will miss the weekly and monthly emails with some of you guys.
Good luck with your exams Antonios, have fun in college Lyndon, and thanks to the rest of you guys!!
I think the person I feel the worse for is Erik! After months of hard work he finally gets the Office release done, only to have MS shut everything down!!
I won’t be needed for distribution anymore, but I will still find time to test and see how everyone is doing. Thanks for allowing me the opportunity to help thousands of people also!
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:31 pm
^ Ben, you won’t get rid of us that easy! We count with you for the beta testing and more. ;)
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:51 pm
First time post but I’d like to say you guys have done an extremely great job … I live all the way in Fiji and it was just easier to download one update for all my computers seeing as our bandwidth is quite slow …
But good luck and excellent work over the years… Hope everything works out …
September 2nd, 2007 at 5:03 pm
totally agree with your analysis, antonis. This tool is great, and pretty lifesaver for all of us. keep up the great work, don’t be folled by blind companies management… TNX
September 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm
AutoPatcher is one of my favorite software…you guys have made my day (many times).
To Lyndon Brown: Good luck with your study :)
To Antonis: hope you will get “A+”s in the exam :)
September 2nd, 2007 at 5:25 pm
I would like to thank the guys at Autopatcher for making windows a less painful experience. The web-orientated idea sounds great, and not even Microsoft can argue with you, since its their files. To Lyndon and Antonis, good luck with your studies and exams.
I hope you guys didn’t mind me stirring up a bit of trouble, but I couldn’t stand by and do nothing. Well, ifyour coming back in one form or another, this will be the last time I place a lnk to the petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/SW1SAP1/petition.html
Thanks guys for everything.
Signing off,
Swatmajor1
September 2nd, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Any chance as a temporary solution you could keep providing Autopatcher but require the users to download the patches from MS separately?
The manual downloading would pay off after the first couple reinstalls :)
September 2nd, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Well, who care for all this shit from Microsoft. All of us already now what Microsoft do they integrate malicious softvare in all new instlattion of win xp. Thats true and they start to be so aggressive in they politics to kill all good stuf wich is avliable. So personally autopatcher is so great tool witch give possabilty to save a time and help to as on different way witch micro don’t ever understand. How I read from information we will continued to still have autopatcher and I so happy for that. One big big hug for all people who make so good thing like auto and all the best on study to all. Keep in mind microsoft could stop some thing but not all for sure. One more time nobody and never will stop as to make life simple so take care and dont forget we will soppur zou all time.
September 2nd, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Remember guys, this is a good time to donate!!
http://www.autopatcher.com/donate/
Make those dollars talk in the fight against Microsoft lawyers!
Just kidding about the laywer thing..
September 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Antonis; Great to hear that you and the team are not giving up.
I think in the “Sad Day” blog thread there are a number of quite good ideas to modify AP. Some of the best ones I saw seem to imply integration of ‘blessed’ downloads from Microsoft dynamically rather than providing all the hotfix files as ‘part of’ Autopatcher.
One path forward might be for Autopatcher to download the hotfixes it needs similar to Windows Update Downloader, and use those files to build AP modules. In this fashion, the AP download itself would be much smaller and be integrated into perhaps a more approved dynamic download process.
September 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 pm
Glad to hear AutoPatcher is not done yet.
By the way, I serviced a Dell today, and on the application CD (from Dell) there were some M$ security updates, requested as a required install. Not the links!! but the files them selves.
Why aren’t you allowed to have M$ updates already on a CD, seems a litlle strange how laws can bend and break under the right conditions (fame and money)
Keep fighting, take it to court if needed, you will win.
September 2nd, 2007 at 7:13 pm
I’ve been using AP almost since it’s inception. It has saved me countless hours of downloads from MS and allows me to walk away from the machine while it does it’s thing. Your work has saved me so much money in the form of time saved that I can keep my rates to my customers down when everyone else is charging so much more.
If MS is so worried about their precious updates that have to try and take down a site that promotes so much good will on their behalf then maybe it’s time for me to really push Linux or Mac to my folks. Ubuntu with KDE can look so much like XP that most non techs wouldn’t even notice unless you tell them.
That rant being spoken, I hope you come up with a good way to continue your extremely valuable work. I for one have benefited greatly from your expertise and look forward to supporting your work in the future.
September 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Hey, goodluck.
I’m really appreciate of what you’ve done for the pass 4 years.
It’s been great and a pleasure using your software.
Thank you and have a good life forever.
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:09 pm
AP is a life saver to many. It fixes what MS messes up. MS is a Nazi party reincarnated. I think that eventually, Windows must go. This is enough dictate. Right now, I wish all the MS upper management to get nice cases of cancer and AIDS at the same time and just see them gone to hell.
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I am deeply saddened to hear about all of this. The work that you have so generously done has saved me huge amounts of time and thus saved a lot of money for my customers.
I’ve never used AP on a pirated OS, which I expect is the norm around here.
Good luck with exams/college and a million thanks for your great work.
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:27 pm
lol JN, no one likes cancer, give it a few years and we’ll all make jokes with people with cancer, but not yet.
Maybe a tad too bitter.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:04 pm
You guy(s) are saviours!
This Autopatcher is SOO easy and SOO effective! Congratulations on all fronts and in all endeavors to date. You should be proud -Hip Hip Ho Rays all around!!
Microsoft, you SUCK LARGE!
Even without Gates at the helm they’re still in their old “search, destroy &/or consume” business model.
I will, like many many others, keep watch on this site and for your future work.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Great Speech … BTW good luck in ur exam Antonis and it’s sad to hear that lyndon is leaving, he is considered one of the few backbones of Autopatcher team … well GOOD LUCK and hope that you’ll hopefully consider comin back to auto patcher (once you’re done with college perhaps) …
I am a great supporter of you guyz and will be till the end so wish u guyz ALL THE BEST !!!
I’ll definitely b looking forward to hear from you guyz again … :)
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pm
I’m all for AP making a comeback, but how does this new inception get round M$’s court order?
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:31 pm
No Word to say !
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Googluck for your exams.
If we cannot store and distribute the copies of update by ourselves, why not use the links from MS’s site itself?
Scan for the updates, download the files direcltly from MS’s server’s and install them.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Been using Autopatcher for the past few years…It helped me especially when i do reformats…saves a LOT of time…i don’t need to go thru the download process…
Hope to hear from you soon…We know we will ;o)
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Well, microSHAFT has stuck it to the little guys again. They are just as bad as our government. It’s not enough to make 100’s of billions of dollars and have to give most of it away because they just can’t spend it all. We all should just use Linux for free and give MicroSHAFT the shaft!
Thanks for the GREAT work! Let’s find a loophole that MicroSHAFT can’t plug!!
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 pm
I love using auto patcher for Vista (even tho XP is my main OS) since there are quite a few updates for Vista and i don’t go on often, autopatcher has always helped me by reducing the time from downloading + installing updates in 2 days to downloading + installing updates in 3 hours.
Like mentioned before,I wish you guys the best of luck and that hopefully you’ll find some way to keep a similar service in the near future. (and that M$ wont’ be assholes)
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Hello guys
Many thanks for all the work you have been doing over the years!
I also find this a sad day that the so mighty MS had to squeeze their weight on to a very good service and push to close it.
Me too, like many others hope that it can continue one way or another.
Thanks a million!!
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Well, this explains a lot. Especially about MS’s choice. I am STILL angry about it, because it’s a GREAT little program, that gave me everything I needed when working on PC’.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 am
MS always seem to get jealous of others who do the good work that they should be doing themselves.
They should take a good look at themselves before turning on the good guys.
Thanks for the excellent work done so far and I’m looking forward to your return in the near future.
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:26 am
All the best with your exams guys… I’ve been using AP for the last 6 months only (previously I was afraid of malware and stuff, so didn’t use it.. but after using it once, I’ve never found another freeware which is sooooooooooo usefule and sooooooo safe and so techy….)… I’ve now really fallen in love with it… Can’t say how much you’ve helped… Thanks and thanks and thanks and thanks tons… Waiting for October releases… Wish I could contribute in some way to the work…
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:48 am
You guys rock.
Can’t wait to see what is installed. You have really made our life easier with AutoPatcher - so keep up the good work!
All the best
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:52 am
Good Luck on your exams. Best wishes to Lyndon. I just have to say thank you. I have been using Autopatcher for almost 2 years and it has become a major part of my software toolbox. In a word INDISPENSABLE. I hope you are able to find a way around this issue with Microsoft.
Microsoft always finds a way to undermine talented people doing useful things with their applications and they always find a way to cover it up by pretending to have good intentions or claiming to be protecting end users. Yeah right,
For what it’s worth, you guys keep up the good work.
September 3rd, 2007 at 2:25 am
Microsoft just keeps making things harder for those of us who have to load, or maintain dozens of computers. I rebuild & sell off-lease computers. Autopatcher has saved me many, many hours. I hope you get it all worked through.
Good luck on the studies/exams/…
September 3rd, 2007 at 2:33 am
“But if we were to stop AutoPatcher, there would only be unofficial releases. And if end users can only choose between unofficial releases, it is very easy for one of them to actually spread malicious software.”
I think that , this is the main reason for keep working.
Microsoft suckss!
September 3rd, 2007 at 2:49 am
AP was the main reason we are using Windows (and it is because of the updates) and now MS is taking it down. Have a heart guys, this program are saving a lot of network bandwidth. Now MS angered a lot of techies who was suppossedly their supporters, myself included. Now, atleast for me, MS stood for Microsoft Sucks!
BTW, never got to thank Antonis and the rest of the AP team. Great work! Hats off to you guys…hope we still hear from AP, I know it will not be the end.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:06 am
Antonis, good luck with your exams. I hope after that you find a good alternative for AP. Just like many above I do a lot of re-installations by friends and AP is a blessing indead.
Greetings from Netherlands.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:28 am
I am the IT Administrator for a company of over 800 employees at over 16 different locations and I have come to rely on Autopatcher very heavily in that our company cannot justify putting a Windows Server in just to push updates to the few computers at each site. This utility has saved me countless hours of waiting for updates to download as well as grief from the era when worms would infect your computer before you could even get your system patched from the Windows Update site.
I would like to extend my warmest gratitude to your entire team for making my rather hectic job more manageable. I cannot express the sincerity of that thanks in words that do it justice. I truly hope the creativity you guys obviously have can overcome this litigious witch hunt and reincarnate this wonderful piece of software.
Now if only Microsoft would realize the potential behind this type of update methodology and see the market screaming to break out from the shell rather than being obstinate and contrary because their attorney’s are afraid of what might happen rather than what they might achieve if they actually start trying to give customers what they want, the IT world would be a better place for it.
Once again, thank you for what you have accomplished and I look forward to the next incarnation of Autopatcher.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:30 am
[...] to Microsoft to download the updates (again, either via automating Windows Update Catalog, or via download.microsoft.com and presenting the user with each download page, along with the WGA [...]
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:37 am
Thanks a lot. AP is a very helpful program.
Keep up the good work!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:51 am
Two thumbs!
Will be waiting!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:34 am
Hi EveryBody,
As said by Aaron,
Nice software, very useful for us IT administrators. Efficient, simple, fast…..
Not the s…t of software from Microsoft to make Updates very slow, hazardous etc..
Please continue the great Work.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:37 am
Good luck guys! I wish you the best.
I hope there can be some workarounds to Microsoft’s stubbornness and puzzling hostility towards this excellent support tool for their products.
Perhaps, Autopatcher can be revised to be just a script to perform the downloads itself and reassemble autopatcher at the end user level.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:37 am
BTW, if you’d like to discuss AutoPatcher, you can join #autopatcher on spot.irc.gr :) I think it’s about time we start an IRC room…
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:38 am
Hello Guys!!
I’m a Techie, and may I say that Autopatcher has saved me from countless slow MS updates from home, as I only have 56k dial-up at home.
-All I can say is thanx and more thanx for the brilliant service you guys have provided and I hope that you guys will be back very soon…
I need Autopatcher…without it I’m lost…..
:)
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 am
I want to add something.
If Mikisoft will really stoped development of AP , then they will see the extra load on their servers.
Although their update site was very slow, afternow it can’t be work. :D
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 am
Rats Off To Ya !!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:11 am
Here in Australia, data costs are reasonably high so it costs a fortune if you are regularly getting updates from the MS website; not to mention slow download speeds and other hassles.
Autopatcher was a true Godsend and will continue to use the August release as a base for other updates.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:02 am
Shhhh! Can you hear it? The internet just sighed - i swear!
Phooey to you M$…
VIVA la Autopatcher…long may you live!
Good luck guys, will be waiting for the next release eagerly
Lovs2look
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:12 am
What an excelent, well argued article.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:43 am
Thanks guys. Good luck to all of you. I hope that despite this adversity, you guys will be able to come up with something even better, so that when you look back, this was actually an important turning point for autopatcher.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:52 am
Antonis,
you had made a very good analisis oh the situation.
I hope Autopatcher will come back soon, as all system administrator my situation without it is not confortable.
Good Luck for the future
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:02 am
Hi Guys,
Let us know if there’s anything we can do for you.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 am
Hi guys and thanks for great packages….there was nothing better than doing a fresh install, installing drivers and then autopatcher and breathing a sigh of relief thinking that it is great to have an up to date clean and fresh install of my OS. Being in SA it was a relief to download the patch programs once and then be able to update all of my customers PCs. Here we pay approx. $25 for 3GB cap on ADSL and this helps save that cap…so much for that now. Thanks again and I look forward to future releases of AP as the extras alone make AP worth it. Good luck to the whole team in whatever you may be doing!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:23 am
Microsoft’s C&D letter is proof you are onto something. As only an occassional user I don’t know the particulars, but I do know its made desktop support much smoother - especially for supporting rural users and multiple computers.
Thanks again. Hopefully you’ve subvert the evil doers somehow…
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:30 am
Another thing, if Microsoft did there jobs in the first place we wouldn’t need as many patches in the first place. So fuck you Microsoft. I will pirate your OS as much as I want too. Shit your OS has been pirated since day ONE ANYWAY. Grow up and relax. You make plenty of money with your OS. If it weren’t for piracy your OS wouldn’t be as popular anyway. Geeeze… Crybabies …. I think Bill Gaytes is still wearing diapers..
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 am
Make this site private and then offer your software. Use peerguardian and block HTTP.. FU MS..
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:22 am
Being a Technician, I always make sure that the computers that I repaired were trouble free. I alway have that assurance using AutoPatcher to patch all my customer PC.
I thank all of you involved in the AutoPatcher project for their dedication and community spirit. Don’t let AP die …
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:46 am
[...] was an interesting article posted on the AutoPatcher.com Blog today that talks about the history and future of AutoPatcher. They talk about [...]
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:12 am
[...] a web based solution which might be available at around October or so. You can read more about it here. So have you used Autopatcher in the past ? whats your opinion in this [...]
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:36 am
Well just got the tail end of AP you know I did not know of your program till I went thorgh my search logs and found it. M$ is trying to take down linux to that is what I use on four of the seven computers I have. My compaq laptop has xp on it and when Micro shaft closes update suport for xp I will be wiping the drive and installing linux on it as well. M$ has always tried to scew things up for its users for a long time now I can still remember when 95 came out was supposed to be revolutionary but to some extent it was then 98 came out thats when M$ had the right track of doing updates over the net then ME came out
thats when after everything that they gained with 95-98 they flushed down the drain. And yes M$ has some very good points they try and screw everybody else out doing some good. Bill Gates started out as a HACKER his MS-DOS was really DR-DOS he coped it from the sytem that he worked on and in his garage built MicroSoft from that
.. I wonder if he was to have pay back digital research for all the business that he stoled would M$ even be around today??Well they have always done these types of things and I for one don’t like it I hate the way XP has to update It takes hours todo “56K dailup” it should not have to restart the computer to insert code just restart that part of it. still have two of my systems with 98 on them for the fact I have software that won’t run on xp. wish you all the BEST OF LUCK
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Antonis Kaladis and all those who are bihind the beautiful program - Autopatcher.
We all love you and we really hope you will be back.
Autopatcher was / is an excellent program and nothing can replace it. It helped a lot of people and companies and saved a lot of time and $$ on bandwidth and internet.
Hope one day I will be able to download the autopatcher again, or someday may be some computer magazine DVD surpise me with new Autopatcher.
Good luck with all your future plans. God bless you.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:40 pm
Good luck for your exam… I have been using the Autopatcher fro more than 2 yrs. I really love it as it saves much more time in updating my OS. We hope that after your exam you will find a suitable way out to keep this project alive not infringing any copyright issues of f***ing M$. It seems that billions of dollars of income is not going enough for the dickhead Gates and his crews.
Long live autopatcher…
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
I appreciate your guys resilancy (bad sp?). Anything that you guys can do to continue working on autopatcher all the better. Thank you for all your hard work!
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 pm
my first and one and only month with autopatcher was (sad to say was) totally absolute bliss. microsoft provides the way for hackers to blast an unsuspecting xp user with malicious software. i say that because autopatcher did for me what microsoft windows update could not do which was provide me with updates that their website fails to provide. i know this because after i would install updates from their website and then use Autopatcher(rules!), Autopatcher would give me a detailed list of all the updates that microsloth failed to provide. plus microsloth’s way of updates takes absolutely forever to download and install with several reboots,and does not provide a way to remove…… well i am tired of this. microsloth was afraid because autopatcher provided the best and most efficient way to update ones’ computer. the list of things that autopatcher performed is too long for me to take my time to explain. every giant has a David! Autopatcher is David!
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Only some socolled brain in MS knows why they let you running for 4 years by now, if they talk about stupid Copyright…
Do not get me wrong, I am complettelly on your side….
I think that you are the specific long term experiment for MS also, and that is the reason why they let you running for years by now…
Maybe they will buy you and your great AutoPatcher…
Or maybe they even stoll your Idea and launch their own tool - just a copy of Autopatcher + miliun Genuine Spyware Checkups and similar….
I was using AutoPatcher for 2.5 years by now.
People on the coast, irelands and similar with only available 56K Modems and again similar slow Net technology, for them, AutoPatcher was breath sawing icon software, like a culture on its own.
You put Genuine check up also in AutoPatcher, you put MS Copyright on the front of the aAutoPatcher install and run, you cannot instal IE7 and WMP11 any more without Genuine installation stupidity in AutoPatcher, I mean, what they want more???
I do not know about AutoPatcher MS Office Update solutions (If you can or cannot bypass Genuine check here), but concerning MS Win XP Updates, I cannot figured why they shut you down.
And one more thing.
I was especting, that some higher persona from MS will contact you with the above e-mail, and even a proper name and signature will be stand in front of their official letter. Especially concernig that you are so popular all over the world for years by now…
Shame on Microsoft, their are still so mutch egoistic, and you doing them a faver at the basic end.
They need to develope simillar tool for Home Users before century ago, but they did not…
You do an excellent job and we all thank You!!!
Best regards from Zagreb, Croatia!!!
Wish you nothing but the best, and very good luck and hope that you will be able somehow solved this samefull mess with MS…
B.H. & T.M.
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:27 pm
Great Respect for all AP team.
I wait for your next rebirth.
September 3rd, 2007 at 2:27 pm
Best of Luck for your exams. We support your great work and are hopeful to see new updates emerging as soon as possible. Thank you.
Kind Regards
September 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Hey! Best of Luck! And I m happy that AP continues thanks
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:50 pm
good luck on coming up with a web based solution, have been using ap for about 3 years, good luck on exams also.
thanks for all the hard work!!
and supposedly ms has a sp3 out for download now in 2nd beta ?
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Only Warriors Falls in War Grounds !!! Those who are childerens cannot fall becuase they walk on knees !!.. I know you will come back as a warrior. I love u guys
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:41 pm
Mighty pleased to find out you’re not giving up!
Thanks for all your time and effort, and I’m looking forward to your new incarnation.
Best of luck with exams, Antonis, and with school, Lyndon!
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:43 pm
BTW, Antonis, hex-udoku?? And I thought I was just getting over my sudoku addiction! Sounds like I might be in trouble again if you make available your new twist on the game! :-)
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:15 pm
My God this is horrible news. I have come to rely on AP so much. What a bummer it is too not look forward to the September release. All I can say is I hope you guys can take this in stride and come out with your new program idea without missing a beat.
Best Of Luck to all of you AP
P.S.
Microshaft….. EAT SHIT AND DIE !
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Hi Guys,
An approach that Microsoft could not argue with is an Autopatcher that pulls the updates from Microsofts site. Create the app with knowledge of where to get the updates and have a selection list for the user to choose from. Once all the selection are made it starts pulling the updates and patches. This way it is using Microsofts security and controls. Autopatcher packages the patches up and allows the user to create a disc to install from.
Why doesn’t microsoft give the techs a tool to do this with? WSUS doesn’t work without being on a domain or messing with GPOs. We use Autopatcher in our PC runup section for updating new machines before shipping them out. It saves us a lot of time. There is no alternative that works as well.
Looking forward to see what you guys come up with next.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:36 pm
This decision by Microsoft really sucks! i have come to not only love AutoPatcher, but depend upon it. I too am constantly working on someone’s computer with nothing but a dial up connection. People do not update as they should, and most are blissfully unaware that they should be doing it all! This is indeed a sad day. It looks as if for now, I will be keeping my August patcher with me for as long as it takes to get this back up and going.
I thank you all for your outstanding work and contributions that have saved me countless hours of downloads from Micro$oft.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 pm
No more words can I say :
Thank You - everybody who help AP going on till today. I hope something make MS thinking again what they should and shouldnt do….In my opinion, i think
1.If they kill, stop AP, there will be a lot of people leave off using Window…actually …technical people or who have enough knowledgeable about Computer and Operating System will do that…..
This is one simple example: unless there werent AP, I and my friends would intended to change to using linux, cause we so tired off re-installing, waiting to download update day after day…
I know, may MS thought that they dont care about that so much because their cake on market still a big one compare to another’s…but i think as soon as possible (I hope ^^ ) that will happen if MS continue to support their customer like that ! Their update like a mess to everyone (as same as Antonis Kaladis said)
2. MS just stop this good thing when they still can’t do that ?
3. As Antonis Kaladis said : why MS dont make their update installing check WGA and let customers download a pack one and install it by ourself instead off waiting for Windows to do boring things ? it would be save a lot of time and Internet ’s BW
4. Antonis Kaladis, WHY WE DONT MAKE AN ELECTION TO EVERYBODY VOTE WHAT THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT WHAT MS AND AP TEAM SHOULD AND SHOULDNT DO ? COOPERATE ? OR MS LET AP CONTINUE HELP THEM TO MAKE WINDOW BETTER WITH MS’S SUPPORT? OR SOMETHING ELSE..
Finally, thank AP team again and again
THANKS MS TOO, WITH WHAT MS HAVE DONE FOR CUSTOMER THOUGH IT SEEMS TO BE NOT SO WELL…AND HOPE YOU THINK CAREFULLY AGAIN AND AGAIN
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:02 pm
PS: ^^
TO EVERYBODY ELSE WHO ARE TELLING THE @#@$#$ TO MS….
I KNOW HOW YOU, AND ALL MS’s CUSTOMER ARE FEELING, WHY WE SO ANGRY BECAUSE WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY BUT WHAT WE GET BACK SEEM NOT TO BE SO WELL AS WE EXPECT …
OTHER HAND, I APPRECIATE WHAT MS TRYING TO DO (BUT STILL CANT), YOU KNOW HOW DIFFICULTY FOR MS :d ^^
SO I THINK WE SHOULDNT SAY #)$(@#)$( TO MS THOUGH WHAT WILL HAPPEN, IT MAKE THINGS GO BADLY..
FINNALY , SO SORRY BECAUSE MY BAD AT ENGLISH HAHA :)
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:04 pm
I would just like to thank you guys for putting Autopatcher together in the first place. I’ve been using it for around 2 & 1/2 years now and it has saved me an immeasurable amount of time.
I’ m 50+ and don’t have any IT qualifications, everything has been learnt as a hobby. Autopatacher made it easy for me to keep my 3 computers up to date, repair those of friends and complete newly built computers (my part-time hobby/business).
Microsuck’s update site is tediously slow even on broadband; but with many of my friends living in rural areas with dialup only, it simply wasn’t viable trying to update via the MS website.
I await the re-invention of Autopatcher.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Good luck guys.. And thank you.
I ‘ll be on stand-by for the next incarnation of Autopatcher!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 pm
I am a little late in posting this but a feature similar to WUD (http://wud.jcarle.com/) would take away many of the issues with autopatcher.
Autopatcher ranks in the top 10 sysadmin tools I use, and I constantly recomend it to other ‘techies’.
Best of luck with it all
Ben
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Autopatcher made short work of building out and updating systems for myself and my friends! Good luck to you all.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Guys i have been using AP for like 4yrs now and its great.. saved my butt many times when i had to do system reinstalls and had a 56k net connection…
even now.. at my office its easier and uses up less Bandwidth by downloading AP once a month and go by pc to pc during monthly maintenance and just applying the updates..
guys thanks for everything… if i had a few billion bucks around.. i would give u all some for yourselfs.. for a job well done and the rest to give MS the finger :)
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:47 pm
Hi,
I’m the developer of Windows Updates Downloader (WUD, see http://wud.jcarle.com/). I would love to have an opportunity to combine technologies. Perhaps Autopatcher could install the updates which WUD would download? All in all, respecting the EULA?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:27 am
Hi Jean-Sebastien Carle,
Does your small (very small) program, allow download of updates to be installed later in the batch program?
If so, can this be used on other computers offline, or is the online wga required before install?
Kim
September 4th, 2007 at 1:29 am
I am using AP for almost 1 year. I love it. As a system administrator your program minimize the time I used to spent on laptops & desktops installing updates. Windows Updates feature is good but still applying hundredsof patches one by one is a real pain.
Anyway, thanks for the good work you have done. All the best.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:45 am
To Jean-Sebastian,
Thank you for WUD. However, a big problem with WUD is that it requires .NET framwork to be installed and working. Some of us, like myself, have had it removed (security issues, ressouce problem, HDD space), others have set it disabled. Yet another problem is that using WUD requires your computer to be online, which is why I could not use it to update mine when I had to re-install the OS.
Autopatcher did the trick!
September 4th, 2007 at 2:19 am
I agree with what some other’s are saying. Sort of in the same vain as some boot cd’s that require you to supply the windows cd yourself.
I.e we download an autopatcher program, but go to microsoft’s monthly network bulletin ourselves to download the patches (therefore only once) and then we can manually create an autopatcher distro to install.
I have 4 machines at home, and bandwith limit, i really don’t want to have to download ms updates 4 times. It would be a killer.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:53 am
I always used your Autopatcher, it’s the best way to get computer perfectly updated! I pray for you to solve the question with Microsoft! Good luck!!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:09 am
to “ERA in Canada”:
I have posted the game on http://www.autopatcher.com/about/antonis-kaladis/
The game will start with a normal 9×9 sudoku table. Use the preferences menu to switch to a 16×16, a 25×25 or 36×36 ;-)
Have fun, and report any bugs you find!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:02 am
from one of the official at&t dsl techs over yonder, thank you and continue the work.
I will try to keep the dsl customers running if you can keep them patched. Deal?
:)
Thanks
David
September 4th, 2007 at 4:54 am
Hey man, you all have done a great job with this and I’m glad to see youre not giving up. Ive been a tech since 91 and have used autopatcher since it’s beginning. I wonder how much time I have saved by using it? Whatever it is, it’s a lot, that is for certain. So keep up the good fight, and screw MS.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:06 am
weeelll ….. don’t shoot for the bad english, ok ? ….. :)
“Back in August 2005, I had stated that administrative updates had effectively become a circumvention method of WGA, by Microsoft’s WGA itself!. ” - uhmmm ….. and, sorry, what guilty AP users and developers have, in this ? ….. :)
“The fundamental problem about the validation process is that it is not so much an algorithmic function …..” - well, but M$ offer an alternative way for validation, other than WGA, that use a script (activex) ….. cannot be used instead ? ….. or just M$ don’t know their own products ? :P
“However, as Microsoft has said, WGA was never intended to be a 100% solution against piracy and was merely an educational tool.” - this, maybe, cause WGA have around 20% of false positives on legal copies ? (and NOT 2% as M$ say) :P
“It seems Microsoft’s concern is a security one.” (about their “malicious code” reference, i think) - ….. more “malicious” of the virus called “Windows” ? (LOL)
“Fair enough. It’s is a little funny however, that they take sides when they have never used or even seen AutoPatcher. And I can’t help to wonder if they are just some kids who think they know everything, hoping to grow up as self-proclaimed administrators of some sort.” - ….. over-paid peoples always “KNOW” they know anything ….. ROTFL
ah, well, all we’re waiting for the news and for the new AP ….. keep up the good work, and many thanks for all that you and the team have done til here ….. :)
September 4th, 2007 at 5:15 am
@ Karin
.NET phobia/dislikes aside, you have to have an Internet connection to download AutoPatcher in the first place, so WUD would be useful then.
As in, use WUD (or WUD-like technology ;o) when *creating* the AutoPatcher cd/dvd or whatever.
@Jean-Sebastien Carle
Kudos for stepping up to the plate so to speak :o)
I hope something can come of your offer.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:15 am
Autopatcher is very well done but for non-English Windows-versions it isn’t a professonial solution. Sometimes a localised-version was available sometimes it was not. So as a systembuilder I couldn’t use Autopatcher effeciently.
Now i’m using Marco Sondermann’s Advanced Proxy utiltiy Update Accelerator add-on for IPCop.
I guess Autopatcher was made for home-users.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:50 am
I just want to thank you, i’ve been using Autopatcher for some time now. It’s the first thing i install when our company buys a new computer :)
I really hope the project will continue.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:33 am
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September 4th, 2007 at 7:49 am
I have been using Autopatcher XP for three years now. I am sorry to see it affected like this, did add my voice by writing to Microsoft from the torrents page (which I found through google :-) )
All the best and hope to see you back, you guys ROCK
September 4th, 2007 at 7:50 am
Andasse a fare in culo sta cazzo di Microsoft! Raga non mollate mai!
September 4th, 2007 at 8:06 am
I for one can not thank you guys enough. for all your products. Keep up the great work. Thanks you very much for all your hard work.
September 4th, 2007 at 8:20 am
There is one thing you have to know about antonis.
Antonis einai polu kalo paidi,para polu kalo paidi,opos elegan kai sto aman!(it´s a greek thing if you don´t understand it)
Anyway, autopatcher has really helped me a lot the last couple of years.I have literally spent about 1200 hours providing technical support to family, friends and customers and i must admit that without autopatcher those hours would have been more than 2000.That says it all.
Antonis keep up the good work,a thousand thanks for your contribution to the i.t. world and best wishes for whatever you choose to do in the future.You make us proud…
September 4th, 2007 at 8:47 am
Damn Microsoft. Yet again they have to put their nose in it. What they should do is hire you guys to carry out doing a proper job! Microsoft windows updates suck. Long download times! One reason i used autopatcher was that our firewall blocked the windows update site. So either i had to use a unsecure internet link or use wonderful AUTOPATCHER. Please come back soon!
September 4th, 2007 at 10:08 am
I have been using Autopatcher for almost two years, to update my laptop, which has Windows genuine.
I consider AP was a great tool, because in case of a big crash (Windows has this little problem), you can get your system running and update without an internet connection. Unfortunately, Microsoft didn’t see that, they are mostly interested in sell their OS, without care about the user, “Deal with it as you can, we have received our money” it seems is their motto.
Thanks.
September 4th, 2007 at 10:20 am
Thank you for not giving up and plowing ahead with something. Even if it’s a shadow of the once-great AutoPatcher it will still be better than no AutoPatcher at all. At least I hope so. I’ll keep using the most recent build and then, sigh, Windows Updating for the remaining patches until then. But I sure hope we don’t go too long without something to fill the need. Microsoft really doesn’t know how badly they’ve hurt the people that support their OSes by shutting this down.
September 4th, 2007 at 10:33 am
[...] installed, so their software is completely legal. The tool was discontinued for a while, but with a post in their blog they announced a new development in thei software, with Microsoft permission, of course :)! [...]
September 4th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
This tool is/was amazing, and I’ve used it a lot. Autopatcher is an awesome idea that clearly has been useful to many many people. Thanks for stepping up where Microsoft can’t and won’t. .
September 4th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
What if AP could build itself? What I mean is that the AP team makes monthly updates that tells AP what to go get, and how to apply the patches, but doesn’t bundle the actual patches internally?
This might allow a tech to use his working system and AP to prepare a master image for the month, that could then be shoved onto CD or memory-stick.
I’m suggesting that I’d download APBuilder or something, and run it. It would then connect to MS, and download the official patches on THEIR bandwidth, saving them all down to a folder. Finally, APBuilder would add what we’ve all come to know as AP to that folder, giving us the same end-result as ever, without any concern for security.
Yes, we have to trust the APBuilder executable, but just as we trust WinZip’s executable and every other thing we ever download, it’s our call as experienced administrators.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Just try on it! We love it!
Autopatcher helped us and we need it!
Good work fellas
September 4th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
why don’t you migrate to the pirate bay? :D
September 4th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Have used Autopatcher for a couple of years now. A great shame that another innovative idea has been crushed by one of the giants, shame on you Mr. Gates, remember your humble beginnings.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
I’m using Autopatcher for about sesquiyear. Thank you for this great and usefull job!
It’s not the first time than Microsoft “care” about the user. I remember driver compatibility problems with Windows XP HE first releases.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
When will we all heed Micro$oft’s warnings and simply switch to Linux?
How about Autopatcher for Linux?
September 4th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
We love you man…don’t stop!!! Thank you very much! I hope Microsoft will read this posts…Microsoft you make us hate you!!!
September 4th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Hi,
I am a simple end user but I skilled enought to understand as good autopatch is, in my opinion MS is crasy about you because you are doing their job so instead trying to shut you down they shoud hire you and open somekind of Microsoft official autopatch.
Congratilations for the excelent job you own it damn well.
Bruno from Portugal
September 4th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Fred, we don’t move to piratebay, because we don’t offer anything pirated, nor support piracy
Bruce, trust me, there is no need for an AutoPatcher in Linux-world.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
We are here for you!
Keep up the good work.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:40 pm
What is the port number for that irc server?
September 4th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
I agree with just about everyone on this thread. I really don’t see why MS has to do this. It is because WGA is an optional install?
In any case, when I discovered AP, it was like a dream come true. I cannot stress enough how thankful I am for AP & all the hot fixes it provided.
Having it installed is like having SP3 pre-installed, with additional features & customizations as well. All of these fixes actually makes XP - USABLE for the average joe!
This is very sad for the known existence of AP. I hope that somehow a solution can be provided, where the convenience & customization for windows can be provided.
Many thanks to your hard work. You have help so many people out! Thousands of people owe you their thanks and gratitude!
Oh, and yes, I agree. Autopatcher isn’t needed for Linux.
However, what Linux needs is simplification for installation,
easy of use and wider hardware support. Especially with Wireless adapters!
If Ubuntu would support my wireless hardware, I’d leave Windows XP in a heartbeat….
September 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I love AutoPatcher and I have been using it for the past year. I actually discovered it a bit late, but this has been an excellent tool.
Thanks for all the work you guys have done. I certainly hope that Windows XP SP3 will be released because sitting here installing over eighty patches, even with a slipstreamed Windows XP SP2 disc is totally unproductive.
A big thanks to you guys for the AutoStreamer, too!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
First AP is ine of the best tools that i found for easy updates in home or the company i work.
Secound i don´t find anything about copyrights infringement so i think Microsoft should applaud AutoPatcher instead of doing this stupid circus about something that just help people work better and faster and make more popular Microsoft, so maybe they should pay you AutoPatcher for doing this.
And last but not least keep doing this great service because it reallt help all of us, systems administrators or not, to do a better and faster job.
Thank you :)
September 4th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
It seems some people are having trouble joining the IRC channel. Can you suggest an alternative server?
September 4th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
I work for a nationwide computer repair franchise, we do multiple reloads, always following Microsoft’s licensing agreements. Using Auto Patcher has saved us so much time in doing updates. It helps us turn machines faster, so our customers get their machines sooner, and we are are able to keep machines from piling up, thank you guys for that.
It will be bad to see you guys shut down, very sorry to hear that.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Well, AP is one of the last remaining tools that has made it possible to keep supporting Windows systems. If AP goes away, then the only recourse for me is to tell *EVERYONE* who comes to me for computer support (and that ’s a large number of people) that I will no longer support Windows at all, and that they will have to run Linux on any system I support.
Come on, folks, with Ubuntu I can use apt-zip to do mass updates for people on slow dial-up connections (it’s a tool that checks on new/updated packages, then puts together a download request file). I just run apt-zip on their machine, then grab their updates from my high-speed connection at home or work, then take a USB HD with the updates & it’s done.
Once again, MS is helping the migration to Linux .
September 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Good luck guys on finding another way to let this awesome pack out again!!!
btw, does that mean you cant even post links to the torrents?
September 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Why dont you put a very clear tutorial about making a version of Autopatcher to all who uses the program.
If a lot of people have the habiltty to make a version of AP, AP would became a very great force and this could make M$ abandon its bad idea
September 4th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Wow I can’t even express how big a blow this is from Microsoft. As an IT guy Autopatcher has been one of the most useful tools in my arsenal since the day I discovered it. It saves me hours of time on each new system build and is a big help with getting critical updates to infected systems so that I can begin the process of virus removal. All I can say is I hope they intend to deliver similar functionality to admins and IT professionals in a package of their own very soon, this is going to cut productivity for me by a big margin and for no reasonable purpose.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
Hi all. I am a Systems administrator, looking after around 100 msft workstations and about 15 msft servers. we are gold certified partners, and all our software is legal.
Autopatcher saves my team and I countless hours of work, not to mention bandwidth. (Due to certain limitations, WSUS is not an otion for us).
I just logged on to find the downloads have been disabled.
Well, this is making it easier for the “Cracked software” users, and more difficult for legitimate users.
Good luck to you guys, hope you find a way to gracefully chuck a pie in Bill’s face….
September 4th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
Excellent post man. i cant believe how low microsoft are going.
i think they’re really desperate for people to go to them with they’re problems.
After all, they are going downhill since linux is becoming more popular and more efficient. microsoft have always been about money.
Anyway, i just wanted to wish you guys luck.
i hope i find out the name of your next project. i know it will be kick ass!!!!
September 4th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
contact the EFF here
http://www.eff.org/about/contact/
just wanted to say that i love autopatcher it saves me alot of time and headaches not to mention windows restarts……
thanx!!!!!!!
September 4th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
I simply admire Autopatcher! It saved me a lot of time and efforts when it comes down to reinstalling stupid XP.
Just one more thing: BILL, MAKE YOUR STUPID WINDOWS S*T*A*B*L*E IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BUY THAT S**T!!!
September 4th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
really sorry to see this happen but why were support forums taken down too ?
I only have version 5 no undo tweak option and I no longer have internet on one PC the IPC$ security tweak from what I’ve googled
Can any one send explicit directions to undo this tweak ?with version 5 not 5.1
September 4th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
arrea@bellsouth.net Thank you
September 4th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
What I would like to propose to the Autopatcher community and I’d love to hear feedback on this, is to have the option with Autopatcher to update from a folder which would contain the updates which WUD ( http://wud.jcarle.com/ ) downloaded
OR ;
And this may be of more interest to some, is have Autopatcher itself use the WUD Update Lists ( http://wud.jcarle.com/UpdateLists.aspx ). Since the Update Lists (ULs) of WUD are updated on a monthly basis and they’re in an XML format, Autopatcher could easily read them, download the updates contained in the ULs and package itself in a way that would allow offline updating.
This could lighten the load for the Autopatcher community and it would allow Autopatcher to be available for Windows 2000, XP and 2003 in all 23 microsoft supported languages.
September 4th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
It hurts me to see AutoPatcher stopping. It makes me appreciate it even more now that it’s not available anymore. *Sigh*
I’m really gonna miss AutoPatcher, guys! Thanks for all these years of service. I wish you all the best.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
By reading all the news, I strongly feel that Auto Patcher will be online again with a different name altogether.
Keep R O C K I N G……. guys!!
September 4th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
I am really sad. eagerly waiting 4 autopatcher to come back.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
last chance to DL?
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:LZCt4TBcawgJ:www.autopatcher.com/downloads/+autopatcher&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
September 4th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
I forgot. Its already out their on torrent files right? might not be updated but it will get us close.
September 5th, 2007 at 12:03 am
time for a new OS… for the people by the people.. to hell with bill gates, and steve jobs.. and whoever those idiots are over at lunix….