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[MacNala]

I am new to Autopatcher so apologies if this information is somewhere. I have searched but could not find it.
My question is this.
I have a number of machines both virtual and real all running WinXP SP3. Updating them individually is becoming a vast chore. I am trying Autopatcher as a solution. So far everything is fine updates are happening. I chose to check on whether the updates I had applied removed the need to connect to Windows Update from one of the virtual macines which had just been reloaded from a MS CD slipstreamed to SP3.
I got the Windows Update home page which informed me that in order to use the service the update programs had to be updated.

Without updating the programs I was unable to check what fixes/patches were still deemed necessary by MS.

Should I have done something different?

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Hi MacNala...

Most AutoPatcher Users still like to see what may be important to their system and possibly missing
from the release and WU/MU is a good way of doing this. I don't keep a list of every update that is
missing, there are a few, it really depends on your needs.

Sorry if this wasn't the answer you were looking for, we like users to balance their AutoPatcher use
with a visit to Microsoft once in a while.

Mike

[Cristiano]

the warning that WU gives about an software that needs to be updated is related to KB892130 (yes, WGA himself). this one is at the extras package. in order to math all updates from WU, you will require all the critical +non-critical updates, plus:
- ie8;
- KB926139;
- KB940157;
- KB942288;
- KB943729;
- KB955704;
- KB958655;
- Windows Messenger 5.1.0715
- wmp11;
- dotnet1.1;
- dotnet1.1sp1;
- dotnet3.5;
- KB961118;
- NDP20SP2-KB958481;
- NDP30SP2-KB958483;
- NDP35SP1-KB958484

i forgot: KB955069, MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 3 and Microsoft XML Core Services 6.0 Service Pack 1 (KB933579) may be required as well.

of course, KB905474 will be at automatic updates. in the english script, some of those are in the extras package and at the .net package. in non-english versions of windows xp, you will be required to update the .net language packs as well

you can live safely without some of those. by me, KB940157 (Windows Search 4.0) stay out of ANY of my machines

but of course, wu from times to times is an good idea.

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[MacNala]

Cristiano, on Jun 19 2009, 08:15 PM, said:

the warning that WU gives about an software that needs to be updated is related to KB892130 (yes, WGA himself). this one is at the extras package. in order to math all updates from WU, you will require all the critical +non-critical updates, plus:
- ie8;
- KB926139;
- KB940157;
- KB942288;
- KB943729;
- KB955704;
- KB958655;
- Windows Messenger 5.1.0715
- wmp11;
- dotnet1.1;
- dotnet1.1sp1;
- dotnet3.5;
- KB961118;
- NDP20SP2-KB958481;
- NDP30SP2-KB958483;
- NDP35SP1-KB958484

i forgot: KB955069, MSXML 4.0 Service Pack 3 and Microsoft XML Core Services 6.0 Service Pack 1 (KB933579) may be required as well.

of course, KB905474 will be at automatic updates. in the english script, some of those are in the extras package and at the .net package. in non-english versions of windows xp, you will be required to update the .net language packs as well

you can live safely without some of those. by me, KB940157 (Windows Search 4.0) stay out of ANY of my machines

but of course, wu from times to times is an good idea.

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Thanks Cristiano and gUiTaR_mIkE for the information.
One concern is trying to maintain a set of updates which will allow the re-installation of WinXP and all the updates and fixes long after MS stops issuing them. So the availability of a complete set is important.

I am working on a problem with Autopatcher.exe which I will report in the correct forum.
I am fairly well satisfied with the methodology and think I should adopt it to at least for the time being ease the burden.
Thanks again for a good product.

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One concern is trying to maintain a set of updates which will allow the re-installation of WinXP and
all the updates and fixes long after MS stops issuing them. So the availability of a complete set is important.

Yes, this is exactly how I view AutoPatcher (along with the other releases Cristiano has mentioned) - a way to
"localize" a large collection of needed updates, and a decent GUI to install them, and after MS goes out of business
(haha) I can install an OS and get it reasonably fit for use. I view AutoPatcher as good as any for this task.

Mike

[Cristiano]

mIkE, you didn't saw the latest news? ms will raise the $ for seven. the entire globe is in a huge crisis and they wanna more money for an OS described by amazon as an "vista that works". by me, so long ms. xp was the last OS that i paid from you. and, due that police of raise price for more of the same, it also will be the last one to a lot of people. the linux fans say "thanks" in advance.

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I haven't tried Linux in a long time, I used a "live cd" and wasn't satisfied at all but it was a long time ago. I used Macs in
my digital audio classes, and again, not overly impressed (I'm not saying I was disappointed) as compared with XP.

From a usability standpoint 2000 SP4 has been very reliable (for my needs) with XP SP3 a very close second. I have a friend
who gives me his old discs when he moves on (the last was XP x64, I never installed it) in trade for any tech help I can offer.

Personally, I am overly tired from the operating system merry-go-round, the need for new hardware to support the new OS
and so on. I would love to see a survey of what people "Actually" produce (product or service) with their computers, or is it
really more of a toy (gaming, internet etc). Regardless, the industry itself is getting richer and richer as we collect more and
more obsolete software (and hardware). I have more ribbon cables, RAM chips, and CPUs that I don't want to give away
because I spent good money on them (I have receipts going back to 1994), so, right now the old software and hardware
is packed tightly away inside a very big box holding my bedroom door open.

Mike