Posted 08 July 2009 - 03:35 AM
It shouldn't have been really long since I had last updated my USB folder. Generally, unless I've checked the forums here, I'll load apup from the folder I have on my hard drive first. If I spot that there is a new release date, I'll update the hard drive and then load up the USB drive for an update as well. So sometimes, as in the case of the last couple of small edits, the script will get updated without a new date listed for the release - so unless I've checked the forums, I won't even bother to update. That's the only reason I can see that I might have for not having both folders equally up to date.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck with your tire, but congratulations on working out a deal to get it fixed for free. Hopefully your night wasn't totally wasted. Thanks for still finding the time to update the script.
Both of you guys stay safe. You're both needed around here .
Posted 08 July 2009 - 04:10 AM
just take care with such devices. those that have jmicron chips us to corrupt data bigger than 1GB (but in my tests, 700MB was enough to ghost detect corruption on data)
> Hopefully your night wasn't totally wasted
not at all. i just have to deliver some machines to an client in a few more hours. now, it's 1am plus and i'm still awake working on it. but i do have extra hardware that i can choose when doing those tasks in a short time and a couple of extra install media. and, of course, autopatcher to help me a lot. right now, i'm finishing the last one, finally
> You're both needed around here
that's the problem. right now, there's just us in here. and we can't fix apup/autopatcher bugs, etc etc etc...
Posted 08 July 2009 - 07:00 AM
results are more for FYI but it did happen to reveal you did miss a few updates. Again this is FYI...
...1106 - still downloading to \modules\Critical\KB938127_xp_x86_enu.apm_files.
...1406 - patch tuesday for June - first sign of removal of KB938127 (both apm file & folder) including download links.
PreAction=del "autopatcher:\modules\Critical\KB938127_ie7_xp_x86_enu.apm" PreAction=rmdir /S /Q "autopatcher:\modules\Critical\KB938127_xp_x86_enu.apm_files"including an old FolderDelete= command on \modules\Critical\KB938127_ie7_xp_x86_enu.apm_files
PreAction.FolderDelete=autopatcher:\modules\Critical\KB938127_ie7_xp_x86_enu.apm_filesNote: The commands above would have removed all traces of KB938127 (including both folders).
...20090620 / 20090621 (new script date format) - all the above commands remain in both scripts.
...20090624 - re-added update (cleared removal commands) - apm file & folder names match this time (added ie7 to both) unlike before.
...20090701 - moved \KB938127_ie7_xp_x86_enu.apm_files from "\Critical\" to "\__MSIE_critical\"
Conclusion: The last script you could have run would have been "1106", and you missed "1406" "20090620" "20090621".
Since "20090624" this update has been downloaded as \KB938127_ie7_xp_x86_enu and moved to "\MSIE_critical\" so I would
say maybe 2 weeks or more without an update to the USB device.
Also, why don't you "copy" the newly updated release from your HD to the USB device, if the release was Official on your HD
it should be on the USB device as well, once copied load the module in AutoPatcher to confirm.
Posted 08 July 2009 - 06:11 PM
Since "20090624" this update has been downloaded as \KB938127_ie7_xp_x86_enu and moved to "\MSIE_critical\" so I would say maybe 2 weeks or more without an update to the USB device.
Posted 08 July 2009 - 07:00 PM
this one is another major concern, by 2 main reasons:
1 - autopatcher is unable to recognize seven. due that, an release could be done, but in order to work, the modules can't have an "restricted to seven", like we have in the modules for all other OS's. due that, any release for seven require to be alone in his own folder and we know that most of the users download everything in the same folder. with seven updates inside, it will lead to an huge list of updates that never will be able to run into vista, xp or 2k and a lot of error messages about it too. in order to test it i've joined to the seven beta tests to reach the RC x32. the download toke almost an entire day in my IC and my machines barely can run seven. i did it anyway, just to test autopatcher x seven. an report about that was done a couple of months ago and so far, no answer about. worst: ask something by msn has become an waste of time, because since some time ago, the messages are just ignored
2 - in order to properly do an script, you must run it. my license is for RC only and will work until February 2010 only. after that, reboots every 2 hours. i have no plans about buy any new machine and buy seven to run it in a Athlon XP 2600+ is waste of money. i don't know the situation for Domenico or Mike, but still, the main issue (1) will be there, if an new version for autopatcher don't come out.
due those situations and knowing the users behavior about ask for releases and zero offers for help, we know that we will face a lot of guys saying something like "please do Seven". without help, the most provable destiny to the autopatcher project is the oblivion and so far, our efforts to keep the things running seems to be for nothing. that little story that is at our main page isn't in there for nothing. but really, really the sad part about it seems to be that we are still in here and someone forgot to turn the lights off
sorry if this seems hopeless, but so far, the only indications that we have lead to that
Posted 10 July 2009 - 12:11 AM
Did I read in the forums a while back that Antonis isn't involved with apup/autopatcher anymore? Autopatcher not recognizing Windows 7 would be a major obstacle to that OS . I, too, was guilty of downloading all of my OS's into the same folder. But then I read gUiTaR_mIkE's repeated warnings against that and I've since had far less problems. It sure would be nice if people read directions before doing something. (Myself included. )
>in order to properly do an script, you must run it.
I'm not sure of which countries it was offered in, but Microsoft actually has had a fairly decent deal going on for the past couple of weeks for Windows 7 upgrade CDs. $49.99 for Home Premium and $99.99 for Professional (both U.S.) and only until July 11th, 2009. I hope that as many people that could take advantage of that promotion, did. But then again, with the horrible worldwide economy and with 3 adequate Windows OS's already out there, people don't have to upgrade.
>due those situations and knowing the users behavior about ask for releases and zero offers for help, we know that we will face a lot of guys saying something like "please do Seven"
I can understand your frustration in that regard too. I'll probably be in that line myself (hiding behind the fat guy that's picking his nose ). I wish I could help, but I possess absolutely no programming or script writing skills. I would imagine that there's more out there that appreciate the effort that you guys put out there. I've used autopatcher myself for quite sometime without logging in to giving you guys that pat on the back that you guys deserve. I suppose if there were more tokens of appreciation instead of complaints, then maybe we'd still have James and Erik Ramey participating.
Posted 10 July 2009 - 01:16 AM
yes and no. he still comes in here from times to times. his last login was at 2009-06-26. but the issues with autopatcher language are know from many years. so far, no fix. the issue with certain file detections are know from something like 2 or more years (i don't remember quite well). the issue with windows live messenger comes since 8 or 8.5 (i'm not sure). so far, no fix for anything like that. also, apup has several years right now and the interface still looks like an product in development, with several major issues, like proxy issues, etc and, so far, nothing. in Brazil, we us to say 2 things: hope is the last thing that dies and "i'm brazilian and i never quit". but let's face it: without fix at least the major issues, the project will die. it's already in process of it by lack of people to do certain tasks and we can't do all by ourselves. we still need help. we don't have any way to know about the server costs, if is being paid and still there's the domain issue, that is unknow. i know that the google ads paid part of it, but we don't know the status of it. the board software is another major issue. it's completely out-of-date and to keep the spammers out we had to take several undesired measures, like lock gmail for registration. it could be solved (at least, the infos about the update states that) with an update, but in order to do that, we need the admin password and the ones that can do that aren't seen in many years. the rights that i have aren't enough to do that. even to update captcha last year was an major issue due lack of rights
> I hope that as many people that could take advantage of that promotion
only in US and Canada. an friend, from a brazilian forum complained about that with Microsoft Brazil. he posted the reply at forumpcs. i can try translate the whole message, but the important part of the reply said something like this "dear user. thanks for your interest about windows seven. we regret to inform you that windows seven is still a product in development and still will take many years to be ready and reach the marked". last time that i've checked, this one was already in pre-order in the civilized world. and still, we will have to pay a lot more than US residents pays for it. of course that the piracy rates will be huge. we win less and pay twice, what they should expect? by myself, i'm lucky. i was paid once with 5 windows xp licenses. 3 are in use, 2 stored. also, there's the "starter" issue. in the civilized world, this isn't sell. this one, in fact, was an major ... against the rest of the world.
> people don't have to upgrade
i had 2 windows 2000 licenses. and i was running it. then, an update broke an software that i had use for. the new version only woks over xp and beyond. soon or later the same thing will happen to xp soon or later
> James and Erik Ramey
they have resigned because the same issue that we have now. overload. too many things to do and they have their personal lives. booth was with us since neowin. for those that don't know, james was beta tester for erik in the office releases (that erik was doing that time). we miss they a lot, i may grant you that
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