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Hey guys

I'm a first time user of autopatcher
I plan to use it for reformating machines when fixing computers on location.
Really glad this program exists

I ran into a few problems when downloading the updates.
I selected all the updates i wanted and towards the end it gave me this message

Verification Failed

One or more files has failed verification. Pelase re-run AutoPatcher Updater

So I re ran autopatcher with all the updates I wanted clicked and it said i needed to download 173 megs over again.
So I did that and it did the same error again.
Then I went through and selected the updates one by one and some downlaoded a few megs more.
When I came to redoing Extras Addon Pack I got the error again and cant get past it.

Fetching sw_slim_installer.exe
Extras Addon Pack
Verification Failed
One or more files has failed verification. Pelase re-run AutoPatcher Updater.

The problem is I cant figure out where teh 173 meg download is that I didnt get
I went through each update seperatly

any help would be greatful guys

thanks for the fast responce

I have another issue

If I download say windows vista SP1
its a 160 meg update

Then I run some other updates to download then i come back to windows vista SP1 and it says I need to redownload the same 160 meg update

Is this normal operation?

Im guessing that its not really checking to see if I have the update already 5 minutes later or something?
cause when i do the 160 meg update on widnows vista SP1 then run the update again right afterwards it doesnt say I need to update it but if I wait say 5 minutes or something it says I need it again.

I'm thinking maybe I have the wrong idea how the downloader works

@Shadowing welcome...

OK, take a deep breath and how about telling us what releases you would like to download, you may need a tip or two to
prevent some of your problems. Also, are you downloading everything into one folder - see my sig for advice on creating
separate folders.

We will likely need to see a log file, please read Log Files - More Info! for more information on posting a proper log. Please
don't post a log with 5 release selected. Read the information it will spell it out. We should be able to help you out but you
will need to elaborate on how you are downloading, into the same folders or multiple folders, but first just let us know what
releases you would like to download so we can make some suggestions.

Thanks Mike for the responce
I play guitar as well

any who
I'm using dish internet so im only allowed to download 17 gigs a month so redownloading stuff over and over again is really grabing my connection.
I'll give you more information before i post a log file.

I'm wanting to get these following updates
Updater 1.0.5
engine 5.6.81
windows Vista SP1 (x86)
Windows Vista SP2 (x86)
windos xp SP3 (x86)
windows 2000 SP4
Directx addon Pack
Net Framework Addon pack
extras addon pack
java runtime (JRE) v6 Upd.14 Addon Pack x86

I'm wanting to later on get all the office updates too but that wil have to wait.

I am downloading them all to the same folder. how do i seperate folders.
Copy each folder and characterize each folder as vista, xp an windows 2000?
and then only do those updates for those folders?


Thanks for your time

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All the more reason to have come in here and asked a few questions first - to get off on the right foot, anyway...

Updater 1.0.5 / engine 5.6.81 - you will have these checked by default and you will want them for every release you separate into
individual folders.

Windows Vista SP1 (x86) / Windows Vista SP2 (x86) - these will need to be in different folders, SP2 will keep removing files that the SP1
script will download.

Windows XP SP3 (x86) / Windows 2000 SP4 - these should get along fine in the same folder.

Directx / Net Framework / Extras / Java - these I have together and are fine.

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Well, it is virtually impossible now without going crazy, you downloaded all the updates to the same "\modules" folder, what I'm recommending
is you create separate folders like you initially did but only select releases that can co exist together. The only problem you will have is you will
need to be mindful of what releases you are downloading / updating which will require you to check and uncheck each release and this can get
confusing.

Users like yourself make it real difficult on us because you come in here and grab it all and put it all in the same folder and then start having
troubles with files being over written from one script to the next and we have to go into this long diatribe that is why I say from the get go
- have one folder per release and get used to only selecting that release when you do an update.

If you look at the folder structure you should see these folders: ...\apup_bin...\bin...\modules...\tools...\translations...\win9xnt
Each working group will have all these folders and their own "apup.exe" and "autopatcher.exe", and each release will have it's own .rti file
which makes it official.

The apup.zip you extracted along with "AutoPatcher Updater" and "AutoPatcher Engine" create the basic folder structure and you will
need this in place for every group you separate. The "\modules" gets created once you run apup.exe and select a release to download.

Followup:
Here is an image of how I have all my release in the same main AutoPatcher folder and each individual release has it's own folder - see my sig.

If you were to tick any release you would see the folders I mentioned above (they are not buried any deeper in more subfolders). What I did is
went into each folder and right-clicked on apup.exe and created a shortcut, and then edited the properties to run "apup.exe /log". I did this for
the log file as well (a shortcut) and moved them to the main AutoPatcher directory.

If you were to highlight the apup.2k.sp4 shortcut and scroll down and back up you would see the status bar change (lower left bottom image)
letting you know what shortcut you are on - this is how I know what release I'm updating. Why is this important, APUP isn't that smart and
regardless of what shortcut you launch APUP will have the same 3 items selected "AutoPatcher Updater", "AutoPatcher Engine" and in my
case XP SP3 x86 (this is what I meant by having to uncheck what you don't want and check what you do).

This is the easiest way to maintain multiple release as long as APUP remains undeveloped any further. So, I want to updates Office 2003, I
double-click my shortcut, I uncheck XP SP3 x86, and check my 2 Office items - Office 03 and Office Addons. I don't bother unchecking the
"Updater" or "Engine".

Thanks alot mike for the help

Since I already downloaded all the updates into one folder cant I just copy the folder I have and rerun each update instead of creating differant folders starting from scratch so I dont have to redownload everything over again as much. so im only rewriting over files I that was replaced.

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Now would be a good time to actually look in the modules folder where you already downloaded everything - you should see a number
of sub folders; "Components" "Critical" "NonCritical" "Tweaks" for the OSes, for the Addon Packs a few new folders such as "AddOns"
and "wga", OK... This is why it would have been nice to get a few tips from the start BEFORE you started downloading,............

If you don't want to redownload you will need to "move" each update from each subfolder category over to it's new location but same
subfolder category. I have done it, it can be done. What I'm saying is that ALL "Critical" updates were downloaded into the "Critical"
folder, you will need to move each update and it's associated "apm" file over - look inside the release and you will see how updates
are labeled. The safe way to do this is to use the script (for each release you want to isolate into it's own group) as your guide. Is is
easier than it sounds but will be time consuming.

You could try this - leave everything together and just move out all Vista_SP1_x86 into it's own folder and see how all the existing releases
get along. You may find you wont need "Vista_SP1_x86" and you can simply delete it. Also, maybe having all the latest releases by most
recent service pack level in the same "\modules" folder will make for an interesting experiment! It should be noted the "Tweaks" folder only
applies to "XP_SP3_x86" and it is not part of "2K_SP4" or "Vista_SP1_x86" - I don't have "Vista_SP2_x86" but a look at the script would let
us know if it has the "Tweaks", I doubt it does.

Warning: Don't make this mistake with the Office release, in fact the Office releases are getting outdated so you should be careful of what you
download and I would recommend having all Office releases isolated (separated) - Office XP by itself, same for Office 07 and 03. I would decide
what your Office version preference is and you can safely add Office Addons to it, any Office version and Office Addons should be fine together.

Here's The Test: - To determine if "XP_SP3_x86", "Vista_SP2_x86", "2K_SP4", "DirectX", "DotNet", "Extras", and "Java" can "co exist"
together is to determine if they can get updated simultaneously without errors (related to their coexistence), and if AutoPatcher wont at
some point get confused and load updates (and maybe even attempt to install them) because of a Multi-OS detection, you will need to be
aware that running a mixed bag of updates on one system may have some drawbacks.

***One Drawback For Sure - it will be slow to load, ALL the updates will get verified before AutoPatcher loads the releases!

As an example, if you run AutoPatcher on XP_SP3 some updates from Vista_SP2 or 2K_SP4 may load as well so you could have 2 of the
same updates mistakenly wanting to install. I'm not sure that all the "apm" files have been looked at and some of the old ones don't have
multiple OSes listed for the "WindowsVersion" detection, again it may not be an issue and to know for sure would mean to go over every
"apm" and check. The "MRT" module is a good example - "MRT" has multiple OSes listed under "WindowsVersion" which in this case is a
good thing, you only need one module for "MRT" for all 3 OSes.

Finally, I would always run "apup.exe /log", selecting all the releases you will keep together in one folder, proceed to update and watch for apup
errors. Note - don't worry if you should get a "failed verification" error, this can happen. If you should get any kind of error look carefully at the log
file to determine what release the error is coming from ie; "XP_SP3_x86". Run "apup.exe /log" only selecting the release that gave you the error,
if it repeats it may mean an edit to the script (this is common), if it should go away but repeats again when you download all the releases together
this is a sign that 2 of the releases cannot co exist.

Please only post log files with one OS selected, Do Not post a log with all your releases selected - the log could be very difficult to read.
---> Log Files - More Info!

One Last Note: - As of this post all the releases you will attempt to keep together are Official (this means they are complete and signed) which
means you should be able to download a complete package and when loaded in AutoPatcher it should display Official in the upper right corner.