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[darim]

Hi and thanks for creating such a great service.

Im sure the Autopatcher team has saved countless hours of unnecessarily wasted time downloading and waiting.

I read on the front welcome page that 64 bit was no longer suported. But is the way of the future as 32bit will be slowly phased out.

Have you guys thought of running 64bit OS ie Vista, XP within VMWare Workstation and testing it in there. It will rovide all the hardware wupport you need and no need to buy new hardware.

Just a thought

cya

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Hi darim, and welcome...

darim said:

Have you guys thought of running 64bit OS ie Vista, XP within VMWare Workstation and testing it in there. It will rovide all the
hardware wupport you need and no need to buy new hardware.

If the site information is correct this is the requirements to run a x64 Guest OS

VMWare said:

Support for 64-bit guest operating systems is available only on the following versions of these processors:
...Revision D or later of AMD Athlon 64, Opteron, Turion 64, and Sempron
...Intel Pentium 4, Core 2, and Xeon processors with EM64T and Intel Virtualization Technology

Which of course would mean all the necessary hardware upgrades to our x86 systems

If I'm missing something please point me to the documentation. I would love to install my XP x64 OS in VMWare (on my x86 system).

[mdcdeve]

Too bad about the x64 support .. i wondered before when other features stopped but this finally rules out Autopatcher for me and the systems i manage. As they all run x64 architecture. Just will have the memories ! Been years of help from Autopatcher.

[Cristiano]

well, we always are opened. for x64, it's sad, but we can't do it because lack of hardware and time. but anyone can do it. some time ago, an guy Aka Willian Gates III, talking to other rich guys, said an interesting phrase: "donate. it will make yours feel good". and in deed, it makes. in my free time, i also help in a project about trees. yes, trees, those that once was near the Atlantic sea in Brazil (we know it in here also "Floresta Atlântica"). today, i have about 1816 trees donated and i will keep donating it for a lot of time yet. in here, it's the same thing. each one can donate in some way. some can report errors, some can report missing updates and some can do the scripts. each one, donating at his own way, but donating, makes a good thing happen. so yes, i agree with uncle Bill: donate. it will make yours feel good

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donating at his own way, but donating, makes a good thing happen. so yes, i agree with uncle Bill: donate. it will make yours feel good

I agree 100% - it is nice when you know you have helped in some small way - it is a slightly lesser load for another to carry.

BTW, this mixed up world of ours needs more charitable people - but I must not digress

[tr20xx]

Below is my machine configuration and that's sufficient for all our needs.:
Don't worry about space I am going to increase it soon. Recently my 500 GB HDD conked.

I have Unlimited Internet Usage Plan - Speed - Day (384Kbps download/upload) & Night (1 Mbps download/ 784 Kbps Upload)
I would be Happy to provide support for all 64-bit OS you used to support and would like to keep x64 project alive.
Don't expect immediate support for all of them. First, on test basis I would like to go through how this patching system works and would like to have guidance on it. On that basis I'll divide the time required for each OS on monthly basis. Then, I would let you know how many and which OS I can actually support with full commitment.
I will test all the OS using virtualization only. If it's critical, I won't mind installing it physically.

Keep up the good work

Fan of AutoPatcher

TR20xx

[Cristiano]

well, upload/download speed isn't really required. with patience, anyone can do any script, even with dial up. as for test the scripts, an vm is better than a real machine, but booth work nicely.

> how this patching system works and would like to have guidance on it
well, it's missing some infos, but the basic for it is written in here. of course, that guide doesn't say that some preactions are broken or partially broken (and some are, but i didn't a full list of the failed and the situations where the partially broken preactions fail. but i do know that the ren command doesn't woks all times and that is the reason why i'm choosing xcopy instead). well, please, take a good reading of that documentation. for an x64 script, it seems right now very easy to do an script, because the advent of sp2.

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[tr20xx]

I'll update you with the same from 15th. As I'll be unavailable till then.
It may seem weird as I have come up with something after everything is decided and posted on the site. Sorry for that as, I didn't check the news related to AutoPatcher for few months.

[Cristiano]

well, that post just states that currently, the team members are unable to support x64 for several reasons, but we always are opened for people that are willing to work . of course, will be great when the people could read an new post stating that at least some x64 scripts are back, because of people with good will.

thanks

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Edited by Cristiano, 05 September 2009 - 05:08 PM.

[hclarkjr]

hi, i just joined your site from a google search for update packs. i was looking for one for 64 bit vista post service pack 2. boy what a task!! i would be willing to help out, what would you need me to do? thanx

[Cristiano]

> what would you need me to do?
basically? the whole thing. the good thing is that most of the updates for x64 are the same than x32, just in x64 version. so, an start is take an full update list that the x32 version has and choose the modules as template. then, there's the script. an start is take a look into the existent documentation about apup/autopatcher, that may help in the process. so please, take a look on this

it's lacking some infos, like the commands that doesn't work well with apup (like ren. but xcopy and rmdir works pretty fine), but that isn't an problem at all

sorry about my late on answer. it's past 11pm in here and i've just arrived at home, with 2 notebooks to fix... and one of then is already running seven x64...

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[hclarkjr]

Cristiano, on 27 November 2009 - 01:08 AM, said:

> what would you need me to do?
basically? the whole thing. the good thing is that most of the updates for x64 are the same than x32, just in x64 version. so, an start is take an full update list that the x32 version has and choose the modules as template. then, there's the script. an start is take a look into the existent documentation about apup/autopatcher, that may help in the process. so please, take a look on this

it's lacking some infos, like the commands that doesn't work well with apup (like ren. but xcopy and rmdir works pretty fine), but that isn't an problem at all

sorry about my late on answer. it's past 11pm in here and i've just arrived at home, with 2 notebooks to fix... and one of then is already running seven x64...

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well i found this yesterday and downloaded it. http://www.kickassto...e-t3216765.html he used autopatcher to do it and has 64 bit included. you know about this? the only thing is it doesn't have the October and November updates in it.

Edited by hclarkjr, 27 November 2009 - 10:32 PM.

[hclarkjr]

ok, another update. i found ctupdate tonight and tried it. holy crap!!! one big download of all kinds of updates. i have the october updates now but no november yet. is there some kind of list so i can organize this mess somehow? sorry for all the questions. BTW in case you want to know i have a 16 mb\sec down and 6 mb\sec up internet

Edited by hclarkjr, 27 November 2009 - 11:24 PM.

[Cristiano]

> 64 bit included
we had a few months ago an vista x64 script. one user started, then quit and i did it for a couple of months. if that guy didn't fixed the issues that the script had, you will find yourself in trouble. another problem: do the modules is the easy thing. the tricky part comes with the download links and you may be unable to know if that guy has the latest version for the kbs or not. also, i have an story about F-Secure (when they still had datafellows in their name) and an guy named Sami... they still own me an t-shirt . but i don't know, i'm not betting too much on them at those times. the same with eset

> is there some kind of list so i can organize this mess somehow?
i've tried once. no way. but it may help if you have an full list of updates and the proper order to install each one of them

about the internet speed, it helps to download the modules, but once we had one team member that had dial-up. at my job, i have now an 15MB (still unstable) IC, but we are going to 100MB in a couple of weeks. i just hope that they fix that nasty proxy until that. but the major problem is time, not download speed. but of course, you could do a dozen of download tests without any worry. to me, it takes a couple of hours...

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[hclarkjr]

well i have the time and am willing, just tell me how and what i need to do. i have never done project like this but am willing to help. i want to keep vista for at least another year to get back what i paid for it, yes i am running a full retail ultimate not some cracked junk

[Cristiano]

well, basically, you need take the vista x32 script and choose this one as an template. basically, you need take the download locations, md5, size etc and replace the ones that are into that script. of course, you have to change the folder to download as well, by adding an x64 instead x32. then, you need take the detections, that can be done by extracting the updates or by installing them and taking the detections from an fully updated machine.

> i am running a full retail ultimate not some cracked junk
cracked version doesn't work for this. first of all, to download certain updates you need validate your windows. of course, you need install the modules to test it and i bet that those that like viruses doesn't install everything

of course, you may require the script. that can be reached from here and following the scripts

it's kinda easy, but this take time...

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[hclarkjr]

ok, you need to talk me through this. i opened the script you linked to and edited it with notepad changing just this part -

Name=AutoPatcher for Windows Vista SP1 (x64)
Date=20091111
DetectFile=vista_x64.rti
DetectHash=
WindowsVersion=VISTA_X64_SP1
SystemLanguage=ANY
OfficeVersion=ANY
OfficeLanguage=ANY
Script=http://www.autopatcher.com/releases/vista/autopatcher_vista_x64_20091109.script
Size=Calculating
APUPVersion=1.0.5

Name=AutoPatcher for Windows Vista SP2 (x64)(don't mix w/sp1)
Date=20091111
DetectFile=vista_x64_sp2.rti
DetectHash=
WindowsVersion=VISTA_X64_SP2
SystemLanguage=ANY
OfficeVersion=ANY
OfficeLanguage=ANY
Script=http://www.autopatcher.com/releases/vista/autopatcher_vista_x64_SP2_20091109.script
Size=Calculating
APUPVersion=1.0.5

i saved it then. what else do i need to change? remember i have never done this before so i may not understand somethings you take for granted

[hclarkjr]

and yes my machine is fully updated, but i do not understand where you say about detecting?

[Cristiano]

> what else do i need to change?
oh... that link has to be followed in order to get the full script (or take the .script file from the temp folder that apup creates). in the first way, in the releases.list file, you have to look for Script= and then look for the script that is aiming the one that will works as an template. in this case, vista x32. then, you take the link that is under Script= and set it in your browser and save the file. of course, you may do it from the temp folder as well, but then you may be forced to download the whole script)

> about detecting?
well, most of the updates deploy an .cat file. taking Security Update for Windows Vista (KB950974) as an template, this one deploy an .cat file with his name under windows:\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}. then, you need go to that folder and take the file name for the .cat file. in this case, Package_for_KB950974~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.0.1.0.cat. the ~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.0.1.0.cat may change from an update to another one, but each update has KB950974 or another kb number on it. so, windows search may help.

for vista, there's no need for md5 detections, except maybe in certain cases. you may require an .md5 tool as well, at least for the compressed modules. hashtab may help a lot with it, since it works by right-clicking the desired file.

oh well, now, update the xp scripts. i can't believe that i'm finally in peace

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[hclarkjr]

Cristiano, on 29 November 2009 - 11:28 AM, said:

> what else do i need to change?
oh... that link has to be followed in order to get the full script (or take the .script file from the temp folder that apup creates). in the first way, in the releases.list file, you have to look for Script= and then look for the script that is aiming the one that will works as an template. in this case, vista x32. then, you take the link that is under Script= and set it in your browser and save the file. of course, you may do it from the temp folder as well, but then you may be forced to download the whole script)

> about detecting?
well, most of the updates deploy an .cat file. taking Security Update for Windows Vista (KB950974) as an template, this one deploy an .cat file with his name under windows:\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}. then, you need go to that folder and take the file name for the .cat file. in this case, Package_for_KB950974~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.0.1.0.cat. the ~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.0.1.0.cat may change from an update to another one, but each update has KB950974 or another kb number on it. so, windows search may help.

for vista, there's no need for md5 detections, except maybe in certain cases. you may require an .md5 tool as well, at least for the compressed modules. hashtab may help a lot with it, since it works by right-clicking the desired file.

oh well, now, update the xp scripts. i can't believe that i'm finally in peace

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ok, i am confused now. i thought i needed to edit the script you linked too? how do i drop it in my browser?