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[wlmitty]

I may be unique in this, I do not know but I have reasons for not upgrading to certain Service packs of Windows. In XP Pro I wont go above SP2 and Vista NONE of the above because of changes in the windows explorer. Its not really important why I dont use some Service Packs, but I noticed that there are no patchers for XP SP2 or Vista with no SP installed. I think your program is fantastic in principal but if you are not supporting all operating systems options, than you are incomplete in your endeavor. Please consider adding them to the patcher list.

[Cristiano]

that is nearly impossible to do, my friend. the number of updates to deal with is huge and worst, they interact. a lot of times, you will require kb111111, that aims the current sp level, but if you don't have the current sp, then you could be dealing with kb111110 instead and we may not be aware of. worst: the users could be dealing with an huge download just because the old sp support. right now, we aren't removing the updates from the pre sp3 updates, to allow the users that wish keep an older sp stay just updating their folders, but any of those users can test an simple thing: update with all the pre sp3 updates and then apply the post sp3 updates. a lot of updates will be missing or won't install due the lack of the sp

so, sorry. we can't do that

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[_def_x_]

Hi wlmitty...

On the surface what you say makes a bit of sense if AutoPatcher were a for profit endeavor, but it is not - it is a purely volunteer project, one would
need all the above mentioned systems to test on - 0SP, SP1, SP2, SP3 etc which would create lots of extra work. AutoPatcher scripts are for lack of
a better term - custom scripts - unlike other update tools that make use of Microsoft's .cab files that contain information about updates.

Now, I don't mean to be rough but you are not uncommon here, you have a need, wish the project would adjust to your needs (fair enough), but no
offer of helping out. In reality, it isn't practical to be running outdated machines - SP3 for XP x86 is a good service pack and there isn't much good
reason to not have it installed. Vista on the other hand, (IMHO) seemed to be a problem from the start regardless of the service pack - JMO

I use AutoPatcher_XP_SP3_x86 on an XP SP2 machine only because I was shortsighted when I partitioned the drive, I don't have enough room to
install the service pack, if an update is compatible with SP2 the info is added to the .apm and the update will load. To try and create a release that
would work on all the above mentioned service pack levels would be a nightmare to say the least.

You could always build a custom AutoPatcher package, the only issue would be the Unofficial/Unsupported warning. I have a very small example of an
AutoPatcher release loading 2 folders, one subfolder, and 6 updates, for the purpose of demonstrating how the folders and files load. There are no
updates in the folders, only .apm files. The important detection information would need to come from you as you select updates to add. I may post a
link to the .7z file and you can have a look if interested.

Note: I can see Cristiano has already responded (as I'm typing), I don't think my post will conflict with his, I will go ahead and add my .02 cents.

[wlmitty]

I appreciate the quick responses guys.
As you may have noticed Iam new to your forum and program and have yet to use it.

I understand about the complexities involved and also why it would be so difficult to implement.
I recently had to do a re-install of Vista Ultimate and it took 4 hrs. to completely update it.

I am still in search of a way to save the updates installed on a system so they can be re-applied
on a re-install. I have found that Vista actually saves the files in the Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download
directory but they are in CABS with additional files and no executable present.
Now if there were a way to re use those files with some kind of a batch file...

I will continue to monitor your site projects and improvements.

Great job on what you've accomplished so far!