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[TechSwap]

I noticed lately when I ran apup1301 with my win7x64 ult that it downloaded directx 9.0 version as though I don't have directx? I have directx 11 from Win7x64 so was this a glitch? There is also part where it doesn't properly update the java update still shows a previous version not the version 19 as listed on sun site currently for both x86 and x64 O/S. So could you update this so users won't try to install a older Directx over the current Directx 11.0 install on Win7 O/S and could you update the java script as well as that last version 18 was said to have a security issue which is why sun updated to version 19?

[Cristiano]

> so was this a glitch?
no. ms does the updates for direct x all from the same file. so, it has updates for dx 9, 10 and 11 in the same file. but don't worry, that it's an common question

> the java update still shows a previous version not the version 19
the sun boys has an paranoid behavior about java downloads and they have changed their download links again. this time, we are unable to take the download link that works. due that, we will be forced to update apup before release an new version for this one

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@TechSwap

As far as the latest Java is concerned, we have been pulling our hair out trying to figure out a way to add the latest to the script, Java
has fixed it so a direct link is not possible. The easiest work-around is to download the latest Offline edition and use 'Run' from the
'Start' menu and install it manually. Of course, an Online install is possible as well.

If you want to do it manually, go to Java and download the Offline installer (Version 6 Update 19 / filesize: 15.9 MB)

Once you have the file, point 'Run' to it, add the switch (/s ...) for a silent install using the info from the .apm file - like this...

-> jre-6u19-windows-i586-s.exe /s IEXPLORER=1 MOZILLA=1

It will install silently so you wont have to do anything, give it 2 minutes to do it's thing, then reboot just like AutoPatcher would have
you do.

[TechSwap]

I use autopatcher to find what other updates I am missing but for java I do download it for offline install. But I do have concern why the directx shows as 9.0c updates but not indicating directx 11.xx instead.

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TechSwap said:

...I noticed lately when I ran apup1301 with my win7x64 ult that it downloaded directx 9.0 version as though I don't have directx?

...There is also part where it doesn't properly update the java update still shows a previous version not the version 19

The short answer is - you selected the script, but this is reasonable seeing that websites employ 'smart' or 'intelligent' features when they offer
updates that APUP doesn't. When you go to update a system at MS the assumption is made that the system connected to the site is the system
to be updated so the site will do a 'scan' and offer the appropriate file(s) - APUP makes no assumption.

Remember - AutoPatcher is designed to be a reusable portable collection of updates, APUP downloads the package. Again, APUP makes no
assumptions, because you use Windows 7 x64 to download a release doesn't mean this same system will be updated using AutoPatcher, it may
be your childs XP x86 machine that will be updated to the latest Java or DirectX, or both the Windows 7 and XP machines.

About the scripts: All the scripts are updated by hand, if a direct link for a file is available it is added. Hopefully APUP (really cURL) features will
be implemented so not-so-direct links can be used. For now, files can only be used where direct links are possible, this also has to do with laws
that govern 'what' files can be offered and 'how' they get downloaded. It wasn't so long ago that MS complained about AutoPatcher offering files
in a single executable, this is why APUP was created.

Bottom line, AutoPatcher can't host the MS, Java, Flash etc type updates - they need to be downloaded directly, sites are making this a bit harder,
they want you to visit them. Once the updates do get downloaded, then they are reusable, they can update many systems unlike web updates that
only update the connected system. Web updates do make a few assumptions including - the end user may not know what files to install, so the site
makes the decision for you. AutoPatcher and APUP operate from the opposite view point - they expect the end user to know, though a few features
are built into the module to properly list a file for installation, nothing is more important than the end user's knowledge of the files they are selecting
to download or install.

TechSwap said:

So could you update this so users won't try to install a older Directx over the current Directx 11.0

The supported operating systems listed at the DirectX 9.0c (Feb. 2010) site include Windows 7 - More Info.

Most installers will check the system and offer a warning - I would expect (hope ) DirectX to function this way but it is important for the end user
to be aware of what they are downloading or attempting to install.

Note: The DirectX runtime cannot be uninstalled.