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[DesertJerry]

Ran APUP then AutoPatcher.

Microsoft Windows - Updated Components > Lists Windows Media Play 11 v11.0.5721.5262. Problem is I have v11.0.5721.5268 installed.

I checked AutoPatcher\modules\Components\WMP11_xp_x86_enu.apm_files folder and found wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe - 25,137KB 03-Jul-10 18:46.

Checked the folder I have for WMP downloads and it also has a size of 25,137KB but the downloads indicate a Date Modified: 22-Jun-10 13:24 and Date Created: 19-Jul-07 22:40 so, it looks like I downloaded a newer version than the one included with AutoPatcher.

The Microsoft download site: WMP11 for XP released: 6/22/2010 which agrees with the information I have.

But the .APM file appears to not agree with what is actually installed.

[DetectionRegistry]
RegistryPath=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\11.0\Registration
KeyName=UDBVersion
KeyValue=11.0.5721.5145 <---- this is what I found here.

[DetectionFile]
FilePath=progfiles:\Windows Media Player
FileName=wmplayer.exe
FileVersion=11.0.5721.5145 <---- same here.
FileMD5=ANY

I have no idea why things are this different but I felt this should be mentioned.

[Cristiano]

[DetectionRegistry]
RegistryPath=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\11.0\Registration
KeyName=UDBVersion
KeyValue=11.0.5721.5262

[DetectionFile]
FilePath=progfiles:\Windows Media Player
FileName=wmplayer.exe
FileVersion=11.0.5721.5262
FileMD5=ANY

due some reason, autopatcher isn't reading file version from wmplayer.exe. the command is right, but there's an issue related to the bizarre way that ms deals with file versions that creates that from times to times. due that, the only one reliable detection is the registry detection. that version was taken from that latest version of wmp11. as you have an version higher than that one, my guess is that you have updated wmp11 with an update that i'm not aware of. but since there's an file detection present (even if not working properly), it's possible set more than one registry detection. so please, can you edit that apm file and paste this:

[DetectionRegistry]
RegistryPath=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\11.0\Registration
KeyName=UDBVersion
KeyValue=11.0.5721.5262

RegistryPath=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\11.0\Registration
KeyName=UDBVersion
KeyValue=11.0.5721.5268

[DetectionFile]
FilePath=progfiles:\Windows Media Player
FileName=wmplayer.exe
FileVersion=11.0.5721.5262
FileMD5=ANY

but of course, if you knows the update that did this last update to you, better

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[DesertJerry]

I am answering this from Win7 64-bit and IE8 so I have not yet done your suggested changes, above.

But, at http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/ where there are some experts that created WMP11 addons for the RyanVM Integrator I ran across this from one of them:
original wmp11.exe: v11.0.5721.5262 - this is the 22 June 2010 version
wmp 11 + KB973540: v11.0.5721.5268

This explains why my version number is different than yours.

Plus I don't see KB973540 in AutoPatchers > Components. I'm assuming it can be easily added.

[Cristiano]

there's something else going on... KB973540 doesn't include wmplayer.exe. as an guess, they have included some non-public updates, but i will extract every single update for wmp11 to check for that

> I don't see KB973540 in AutoPatchers > Components
true. but look into autopatcher:\modules\Critical\__WMP_critical\
wait: PreAction=rmdir /S /Q "autopatcher:\modules\Critical\__WMP_critical\wmp11"
DetectFile=autopatcher:\modules\Critical\__WMP_critical\KB973540_xp_x86_enu.apm
DetectHash=00D2B01FE924A15E6309AED258914E7E
DetectFile=autopatcher:\modules\Critical\__WMP_critical\KB954155_xp_x86_enu.apm
DetectHash=0A8BA667294E544A2BAF1F20D232BD81
DetectFile=autopatcher:\modules\Critical\__WMP_critical\KB969878_xp_x86_enu.apm
DetectHash=07670A4771E128CE7E503FE5FE3E8CE9
DetectFile=autopatcher:\modules\Critical\__WMP_critical\WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB979402-x86-ENU.apm
DetectHash=2C88FD01195DBA4E0DA4DE1D844D0080
DetectFile=autopatcher:\modules\Critical\__WMP_critical\WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB978695-x86-ENU.apm
DetectHash=4FD0E78E574076E1DB29EC1F958C4F20

oh boy... there's an command removing all those... well, not anymore. but now, check for unofficial issues, etc... and i will be able to do that only tonight

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[Cristiano]

more infos:
kb954155 includes wmspdmod.dll 11.0.5721.5263
kb973540 includes wmp.dll and wmpdxm.dll 11.0.5721.5268
kb978695 includes wmvcore.dll 11.0.5721.5275

none of those is an executable file, but file versions are newer than the one included in wmp11 installer. the .cat file wasn't updated... oh well, only one option left: double detection. and, of course, try realize what else they have included without state that...

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[DesertJerry]

I checked these items a few minutes ago and the results are:

Start WMP11; go to Help > About > Version 11.0.5721.5268

Explorer > \Program Files\WindowsMediaPlayer\wmplayer.exe > Properties > Version > 11.5721.5145

Registry > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\11.0\Registration
KeyName=UDBVersion
KeyValue=11.0.5721.5145

As you can see WMP11's About is showing a different version than the executable and in the registry; so something else is going on here.

Also, the person I mentioned that creates the WMP11 Addons for the RyanVM Integrator posted this:
Updated WMP11 to 11.0.5721.5262, replaces KB928788, KB929399, KB929773, KB932390, KB933547, KB935551, KB935552, KB939209, KB939683, KB941569, KB944882, KB952069, KB954069, KB954154.

So, I would guess that some of the updates APUP is downloading and are being listed in AutoPatcher are no longer necessary and may be causing some kind of problem when run. I don't know for sure, just making a guess here.

Booted into XP Pro x64 w/SP2 and did sme checks as above - same results. So, whatever is going on is duplicated in the two operting systems; WMP11 version mismatch is the same. (Probably boot my #2 system tomorrow and check it - but I'm guessing the results will be the same.)

Edited by DesertJerry, 13 August 2010 - 09:55 PM.

[Cristiano]

KB928788-> removed
KB929399-> removed
KB929773-> removed
KB932390-> removed
KB933547-> removed
KB935551-> removed
KB935552-> removed
KB939209-> removed
KB939683-> removed
KB941569-> removed
KB944882-> removed
KB952069-> critical
KB954069-> not included. Windows Media 9 encoder
KB954154-> removed

so, autopatcher doesn't include any of those, except for KB952069, that contains:
wmnetmgr.dll ->11.5721.5251
wmvcore.dll -> 11.5721.5251

KB954069, by his hand, contains Wmvencod.dll 11.0.5721.5253

doing an simple search in a computer that just contains wmp11 11.0.5721.5262, i've found Wmvencod.dll 11.0.5721.5262. due that, i don't see any reason why include an obsolete update

also there's no .exe included in the only one update that could be an problem, my guess is that they are doing an huge mix of updates, probably with some non public updates included that they have forgot to mention. also, their integration process may have an fault, otherwise the most obsolete version that should be in your system is 11.0.5721.5262 and isn't the case. some infos state that 11.0.5721.5145 is present. older, for sure

> are no longer necessary
none of those listed are present, except for , except for KB952069, that i have an slight hint that is now obsolete, but i'm not sure. i will do some research about. as we have to respect an C&D order from ms, we can't host files from them. due some reason, ryanvm doesn't have to obey the same rules that we have to not not be sued until our 10th generation. as ryanvm doesn't have that limitation, they can integrate updates and make a lot of them obsolete. due that, we can make autopatcher compatible to their suite, but it's the best that we can do

i'm finishing an download test with the xp enu script. after finish it, i will include that compatibility, despite rvm doesn't prove that exist an 11.0.5721.5268 of wmp11. also they did something wrong with the registry information too, i also will include 11.0.5721.5145 in the detection grid

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[Cristiano]

done. wmp11 module now accept as already installed versions 11.0.5721.5145, 11.0.5721.5262 and 11.0.5721.5268 by registry detection

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[DesertJerry]

As I mentioned above; I booted my #2 system into XP Pro w/SP3 and that system also reports WMP11 Help > About as version 11.0.5721.5268, wmplayer.exe as version 11.0.5721.5145 and the registry settings as UDBVersion 11.0.5721.5145 - so whatever is causing the differences it is consistent between my two systems.

[Cristiano]

that i don't have any doubt about. if the problem is related to the installer himself, the same issue will happen to all machines where the software was deployed. but if this fixes...

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[DesertJerry]

Just ran APUP then AutoPatcher. Microsoft Windows - Updated Components > Windows Media Player 11 v11.0.5721.5262 now shows in blue - so the changes work until Microsoft decides to update WMP11 and we'll have to wait and see if things are mismatched again.