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[Black Ghost]

Could Windows Live Essentials be added to AutoPatcher? Thanks

[Cristiano]

it could. in fact, this one was in the extras script, until that someday the smartest guy in the globe that works at ms started to think "hey, why someone requires an silent install? let's rip it off". in the next day, do an silent install of it was impossible. as an basic rule, we only add software that can be silently installed and if an software looses that ability, it is removed. in that same day, that same smartest guy in the globe merged a lot of tools inside the same package, supersizing the installer to be about 134MB, making the download of msn an nearly impossible download for those that still are on dial-up or have to deal with unstable connections (but hey, no one else in the globe is still on dial-up, right?). also, since some time ago, that smartest guy in the globe did again. due some reason, that guy had an epiphany: why do an supersized download? this is stealing us a lot of bandwidth! let's go to web, straight to the cloud, everybody downloading just what is required, with a lot less bandwidth impact. and today, download an stand alone installer for msn is impossible (or at least very hard to find, meaning that you must stay online for as long it takes to download msn. but hey, what's the problem, everybody has pretty stable 100MB connections...). also, some time ago, an team of the smartest guys in the globe that works at ms had another epiphany: hey, what's the difference between beta and stable versions? it's the name, right? so, forget beta testing. an certain search company did that for a lot of time and no one complained about... after that, you just download the beta version

our rules are simple:
- no beta software;
- it must have an silent install;
- it must allow offline install

currently, Windows Live Essentials doesn't have any of the basic features that fit in our rules

oh yes, just in case that someone with half a brain that has some kind of influence under ms be reading this, please, yours doesn't need go to an hidden place in the globe to be under dial-up. i bet that yours will find a lot of people under dial-up at US, Europe... all those may find an non-ms replacement for msn. and i know a few of those that already did...

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[Black Ghost]

Damn...lol... It does need that silent install and they just came out with 2011 version of it. The new version for offline download is now 155MB. Maybe someday you guys can add it.

[Cristiano]

> It does need that silent install
well, extracted, all the installers for WLE has it. i did it to my personal usage with the previews version, but was tricky find where the install files are stored, because the installer doesn't has an /extract or something like that and also doesn't allow to be decompressed by 7zip (that can decompress almost everything). but hey, why make something easy, if they can complicate it a lot?

> The new version for offline download is now 155MB
where you found it? a lot of my friends require that and some of them us to come to my place just to install msn and my cat's don't like of some of them (and, to be honest, i don't us to like when an cat see someone and runs away)

> Maybe someday you guys can add it
sure. as soon this one allow once again an silent install or at least an /extract (since the installers that are inside of it allow an silent install, of course), this one will be re-added. due the size, maybe as stand alone, but will be

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[Black Ghost]

Here is where you can get the links to download it.

http://www.askvg.com...line-installer/

[Cristiano]

thanks a lot. i will try find an extraction command for it. if possible, then it's possible do an module for it. if not...

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[Cristiano]

well, i don't know if i'm happy or not with the test and google results...

WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:Photo,Mail,Messenger

/AppSelect options:
* companion
* silverlight
* familysafety
* mail
* messenger
* moviemaker (installs the Photo gallery as well!)
* olc
* wlsync
* writer
* bingbar
* idcrl32/idcrl64

also:
- with 7zip, unzip wlsetup-all.exe. to this test, i've chosen the "extract to" option;
- locate wlsetup-all\.rsrc\PACKAGE;

yours will see a bunch of files in there. select all those files, 7zip, extract here and yours will find this:

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Bingbar.7z
companion.core.7z
companion.mui.7z
Contacts.7z
crt90.7z
crt90_amd64.7z
d3dx10-x86.7z
D3DX10_42.7z
D3DX9.7z
FSSClientLang_amd64.7z
FSSClientLang_x86.7z
FSSClient_Suite_amd64.7z
FSSClient_Suite_x86.7z
LanguageSelector64.7z
Mail.7z
MailLang.7z
MeshBetaRemover.7z
MeshRuntime.7z
Messenger.7z
MessengerLang.7z
MovieMaker.7z
MovieMakerLang.7z
olc.7z
olc64.7z
oscwl.7z
oscwl64.7z
PhotoCommon.7z
PhotoCommonLang.7z
PhotoLibrary.7z
PhotoLibraryLang.7z
PIMT.7z
SegoeFont.7z
Silverlight.4.0.7z
soxe.core.7z
soxe.definitions.7z
SpamFilterData.7z
SQLServerCE31-EN.7z
UXPlatform.7z
UXPlatformLang.7z
Watson-x64.7z
Watson-x86.7z
Windows6.1-KB2120976-x64.7z
Windows6.1-KB2120976-x86.7z
Windows6.1-KB2300535-x64.7z
Windows6.1-KB2300535-x86.7z
WindowsLiveSync.7z
WindowsLiveSyncLang.7z
wllogin_wlx-x64.7z
wllogin_wlx-x86.7z
WLMimeFilter-amd64.7z
WLMimeFilter-i386.7z
wlremoteactivex.7z
WLRemoteClient-amd64.7z
WLRemoteClient-i386.7z
wlremoteclientlang-amd64.7z
wlremoteclientlang-i386.7z
WLRemoteService-amd64.7z
WLRemoteService-i386.7z
wlremoteservicelang-amd64.7z
wlremoteservicelang-i386.7z
WLXSuite.7z
WLXSuiteLang.7z
Writer.7z
WriterLang.7z
WriterProd.7z
WriterProdLang.7z
wwsapi-x64.7z
wwsapi-x86.7z

once again, select all those, 7zip, extract here and yours will find:

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Bingbar.cab
companion.core.cab
companion.mui.cab
Contacts.cab
crt90.cab
crt90_amd64.cab
d3dx10-x86.cab
D3DX10_42.cab
D3DX9.cab
FSSClientLang_amd64.cab
FSSClientLang_x86.cab
FSSClient_Suite_amd64.cab
FSSClient_Suite_x86.cab
LanguageSelector64.cab
Mail.cab
MailLang.cab
MeshBetaRemover.cab
MeshRuntime.cab
Messenger.cab
MessengerLang.cab
MovieMaker.cab
MovieMakerLang.cab
olc.cab
olc64.cab
oscwl.cab
oscwl64.cab
PhotoCommon.cab
PhotoCommonLang.cab
PhotoLibrary.cab
PhotoLibraryLang.cab
PIMT.cab
SegoeFont.cab
Silverlight.4.0.cab
soxe.core.cab
soxe.definitions.cab
SpamFilterData.cab
SQLServerCE31-EN.cab
UXPlatform.cab
UXPlatformLang.cab
Watson-x64.cab
Watson-x86.cab
Windows6.1-KB2120976-x64.cab
Windows6.1-KB2120976-x86.cab
Windows6.1-KB2300535-x64.cab
Windows6.1-KB2300535-x86.cab
WindowsLiveSync.cab
WindowsLiveSyncLang.cab
wllogin_wlx-x64.cab
wllogin_wlx-x86.cab
WLMimeFilter-amd64.cab
WLMimeFilter-i386.cab
wlremoteactivex.cab
WLRemoteClient-amd64.cab
WLRemoteClient-i386.cab
wlremoteclientlang-amd64.cab
wlremoteclientlang-i386.cab
WLRemoteService-amd64.cab
WLRemoteService-i386.cab
wlremoteservicelang-amd64.cab
wlremoteservicelang-i386.cab
WLXSuite.cab
WLXSuiteLang.cab
Writer.cab
WriterLang.cab
WriterProd.cab
WriterProdLang.cab
wwsapi-x64.cab
wwsapi-x86.cab

once again, select all, 7zip, extract here:

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Aug2009_d3dx10_42_x64.cab
Aug2009_d3dx10_42_x86.cab
Aug2009_XAudio_x86.cab
BingbarPackage.cab
companion.core.msi
companion.mui.msi
Contacts.msi
crt90.msi
crt90_amd64.msi
d3dx10-x86.msi
DEC2006_d3dx9_32_x64.cab
DEC2006_d3dx9_32_x86.cab
DSETUP.dll
dsetup32.dll
dw20shared.msi
dw20sharedamd64.msi
DXSETUP.exe
dxupdate.cab
FSSClientLang_amd64.msi
FSSClientLang_x86.msi
FSSClient_Suite_amd64.msi
FSSClient_Suite_x86.msi
InstallManager_WLE_WLE.exe
LanguageSelector64.msi
Mail.msi
MailLang.msi
MeshBetaRemover.exe
MeshRuntime.msi
Messenger.msi
MessengerLang.msi
MovieMaker.msi
MovieMakerLang.msi
olc.msi
olc64.msi
oscwl.msi
oscwl64.msi
PhotoCommon.msi
PhotoCommonLang.msi
PhotoLibrary.msi
PhotoLibraryLang.msi
pimt.msi
SegoeFont.msi
Silverlight.4.0.exe
soxe.core.msi
soxe.definitions.msi
SpamFilterData.msi
SQLServerCE31-EN.msi
UXPlatform.msi
UXPlatformLang.msi
Windows6.0-KB959175-x64.msu
Windows6.0-KB959175-x86.msu
Windows6.1-KB2120976-x64.msu
Windows6.1-KB2120976-x86.msu
Windows6.1-KB2300535-x64.msu
Windows6.1-KB2300535-x86.msu
WindowsLiveSync.msi
WindowsLiveSyncLang.msi
wllogin_wlx-x64.msi
wllogin_wlx-x86.msi
WLMimeFilter-amd64.msi
WLMimeFilter-i386.msi
WLRemoteActiveX.msi
WLRemoteClient-amd64.msi
WLRemoteClient-i386.msi
wlremoteclientlang-amd64.msi
wlremoteclientlang-i386.msi
WLRemoteService-amd64.msi
WLRemoteService-i386.msi
wlremoteservicelang-amd64.msi
wlremoteservicelang-i386.msi
WLXSuite.msi
WLXSuiteLang.msi
Writer.msi
writerlang.msi
writerprod.msi
writerprodlang.msi

now, with all those .msi files, we are talking. but take a closer look into those files. how many hidden things are done by this installer? still, this could work, with a dozen of extraction commands, one after another. so, the closer thing to an silent installer is a dozen of modules, with flavors, like:

WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:companion
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:silverlight
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:familysafety
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:mail
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:messenger
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:moviemaker
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:olc
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:writer
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:bingbar
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:idcrl32
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:idcrl64

to cover all the options, some combinatorics are required, but in essential, it could be done or at least, some narrow could be done and restrict the options to a few ones, like:
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:messenger
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:mail,messenger,writer

but i'm not good selecting the best options, i've just pointed that this could be done. it may be painful to do, but it could be done

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