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Could Windows Live Essentials be added to AutoPatcher? Thanks

it could. in fact, this one was in the extras script, until that someday the smartest guy in the globe that works at ms started to think "hey, why someone requires an silent install? let's rip it off". in the next day, do an silent install of it was impossible. as an basic rule, we only add software that can be silently installed and if an software looses that ability, it is removed. in that same day, that same smartest guy in the globe merged a lot of tools inside the same package, supersizing the installer to be about 134MB, making the download of msn an nearly impossible download for those that still are on dial-up or have to deal with unstable connections (but hey, no one else in the globe is still on dial-up, right?). also, since some time ago, that smartest guy in the globe did again. due some reason, that guy had an epiphany: why do an supersized download? this is stealing us a lot of bandwidth! let's go to web, straight to the cloud, everybody downloading just what is required, with a lot less bandwidth impact. and today, download an stand alone installer for msn is impossible (or at least very hard to find, meaning that you must stay online for as long it takes to download msn. but hey, what's the problem, everybody has pretty stable 100MB connections...). also, some time ago, an team of the smartest guys in the globe that works at ms had another epiphany: hey, what's the difference between beta and stable versions? it's the name, right? so, forget beta testing. an certain search company did that for a lot of time and no one complained about... after that, you just download the beta version

our rules are simple:
- no beta software;
- it must have an silent install;
- it must allow offline install

currently, Windows Live Essentials doesn't have any of the basic features that fit in our rules

oh yes, just in case that someone with half a brain that has some kind of influence under ms be reading this, please, yours doesn't need go to an hidden place in the globe to be under dial-up. i bet that yours will find a lot of people under dial-up at US, Europe... all those may find an non-ms replacement for msn. and i know a few of those that already did...

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Damn...lol... It does need that silent install and they just came out with 2011 version of it. The new version for offline download is now 155MB. Maybe someday you guys can add it.

> It does need that silent install
well, extracted, all the installers for WLE has it. i did it to my personal usage with the previews version, but was tricky find where the install files are stored, because the installer doesn't has an /extract or something like that and also doesn't allow to be decompressed by 7zip (that can decompress almost everything). but hey, why make something easy, if they can complicate it a lot?

> The new version for offline download is now 155MB
where you found it? a lot of my friends require that and some of them us to come to my place just to install msn and my cat's don't like of some of them (and, to be honest, i don't us to like when an cat see someone and runs away)

> Maybe someday you guys can add it
sure. as soon this one allow once again an silent install or at least an /extract (since the installers that are inside of it allow an silent install, of course), this one will be re-added. due the size, maybe as stand alone, but will be

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Here is where you can get the links to download it.

http://www.askvg.com...line-installer/

thanks a lot. i will try find an extraction command for it. if possible, then it's possible do an module for it. if not...

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well, i don't know if i'm happy or not with the test and google results...

WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:Photo,Mail,Messenger

/AppSelect options:
* companion
* silverlight
* familysafety
* mail
* messenger
* moviemaker (installs the Photo gallery as well!)
* olc
* wlsync
* writer
* bingbar
* idcrl32/idcrl64

also:
- with 7zip, unzip wlsetup-all.exe. to this test, i've chosen the "extract to" option;
- locate wlsetup-all\.rsrc\PACKAGE;

yours will see a bunch of files in there. select all those files, 7zip, extract here and yours will find this:

once again, select all those, 7zip, extract here and yours will find:
once again, select all, 7zip, extract here:


now, with all those .msi files, we are talking. but take a closer look into those files. how many hidden things are done by this installer? still, this could work, with a dozen of extraction commands, one after another. so, the closer thing to an silent installer is a dozen of modules, with flavors, like:

WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:companion
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:silverlight
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:familysafety
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:mail
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:messenger
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:moviemaker
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:olc
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:writer
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:bingbar
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:idcrl32
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:idcrl64

to cover all the options, some combinatorics are required, but in essential, it could be done or at least, some narrow could be done and restrict the options to a few ones, like:
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:messenger
WLSetup-all.exe /q /NOToolbarCEIP /NOhomepage /Nolaunch /nosearch /AppSelect:mail,messenger,writer

but i'm not good selecting the best options, i've just pointed that this could be done. it may be painful to do, but it could be done

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