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[GeordieLad]

I'm new to Autopatcher and yesterday I downloaded about 275MB to permit saving, burning and installation. However, although that download amount is registered on my download manager, I can't find the file(s) anywhere on my PC. I've done a full search (admittedly only for a single large file with ANY extension) but still can't find anything.

I'll be grateful for any advice.

[Cristiano]

> However, although that download amount is registered on my download manager, I can't find the file(s) anywhere on my PC.
autopatcher scripts wasn't designed to be downloaded without apup. if you have downloaded it with an personal download, it's likely that if you have in fact downloaded all the updates, they are all together in the same folder and you will be unable to run autopatcher from there. an idea. look for kb890830. where this file is, it's likely that the remaining ones will also be. so please, download this file and extract the content of it in a short folder, like c:\apup. then, double-click apup.exe and allow it to pass through your firewall/proxy (if you have one). then, choose your selections like this image:

http://i53.tinypic.com/2djrqrr.gif

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[GeordieLad]

Thanks Christiano for the swift response. However, I may have misled you by saying that my download managed had registered a very large download; it was actually my bandwidth manager.

Whatever, I DID use apup.exe, extracted from apup131.zip, and used the selection table you displayed in your reply. The download screen showed various files (or whatever) being downloaded and a target total of 274MB. However, it was at the end of that exercise (and I left my PC for a while for the download) that I couldn't find any means of installing Autopatcher - or the 274MB download. There was no screen display visible after the download had completed which might have given me a clue as to further action.

A further recall of my actions is that I also clicked on "hit_this_to_generate_a_log_file_for_apup.cmd" (part of apup131.zip) but, apart from a brief flash on screen, there was nothing else displayed at that time and I then clicked on apup.exe to start the event as described in the previous paragraph.

There is a a further point (clutching at straws!) which may (?) have a bearing on the problem: I executed the apup.exe and *.cmd files from the WinZip screen display after clicking on apup131.zip; ie, I did not extract all files to a storage device. Could it be that executing the two files did not action or access the apup.bin folder (despite the apparent activity shown after executing apup.exe)?

Incidentally, a further search this morning shows no sign of a file or folder named (or partially named) kb890830.

Does this help in your diagnosis as to where the missing Autopatcher executable file is? I would hope to avoid having to repeat the 274MB download.

[Cristiano]

> from the WinZip screen
if so, then is likely that apup was extracted to windows\temp or user temp. those folders us not to be subject of searches. one start is looking in there manually. as you will see, there's a lot of files in there and us to be a mess... but still, the best approach is do it again, extracting the whole content of the zip file into an short and easy located patch. as for the log, it is cleaned when apup runs again

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@GeordieLad

If you get it sorted out - excellent! If you need to start from scratch - Read Here!

[GeordieLad]

gUiTaR_mIkE, on 09 January 2011 - 11:40 AM, said:

@GeordieLad

If you get it sorted out - excellent! If you need to start from scratch - Read Here!

Hi all,

Got mixed results after that.

First, tried again and extracted all files from apup131.zip and saved to folder. Then executed apup.exe and this downloaded all relevant modules to that folder (or apup_bin). At least I can now see where the 274MB download is! The moral is: don't run apup.exe from within WinZIP.

It's a pity that I still can't find ANYWHERE the original files/modules downloaded but, no matter, I then proceeded to run Autopatcher.exe which started well (although it took MUCH longer than 30 seconds to scan my PC for update requirements). Eventually, the module downloads started but, after a short while, ceased – although no indication of a problem (Autopatcher.exe still shown as Running in Task Manager). After waiting an hour or so, still no further progress so I recorded relevant info (see attachment) and exited the program which was ONLY possible via Task Manager (the X at the top right of the download screen was greyed out and ineffective although Max and Minimize still OK).

From the attachment (Task Manager Performance) you'll see that CPU is running at 100% (although minimal user programs in use (see Task Manager Applications. In addition to the downloads screen showing progress when Autopatcher seems to have halted (despite indication in Task Manager Applications) I've included in the attachment the full list of Task Manager Processes (split over three screens). Does this help you in any way to define why the update appeared to have ceased?

Any/all views welcomed!

Attached Files

•  Autopatcher 11Jan2011.doc   145.5K   8 downloads

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@GeordieLad

Looking at your screenshots there is a lot wrong with what you're doing (in my opinion), I wish you would have asked some questions first. I do hope others chime in because there is lots to try and straighten out. Btw, next time simply attach your images to your post, no need to create a .doc file. I personally don't like to download files from users I don't really know and that are new to the forums - anyway.

You have 193 items selected for installation (which is both crazy and a record) all the while your AV and security software appear to be running - 58 processes in total - this is not good. There is too much to try and deal with but the short of it is, security software should be off, disabled, whatever it takes to allow the update to install.

It also looks like your running AutoPatcher from a remote location, it may be better to locate your \apup folder locally and then update both the release and your system. Btw, if you were running apup.exe from this remote drive, this might explain a few things as well. You want to run APUP (apup.exe) from your local drive.

The short of it is (from my perspective) - only install a few items at a time especially IE, DirectX, DotNET etc. I don't know what all you have selected but 193 in one shot is asking to reinstall the OS. Also, relocate \apup to your local drive. Shut down any unnecessary programs when updating especially AV, Malware, etc.

[Cristiano]

> MUCH longer than 30 seconds
the time required to that is related to the computer specs. in fast computers, it us to load in seconds

> After waiting an hour or so
that wasn't supposed to happen. are you sure that you wasn't stucked into the agreements screen? if your computer is too slow, you can remove the .rti files. in this way, autopatcher will show as unofficial, you will not know if everything was downloaded ok, but it will load a lot faster

> Autopatcher seems to have halted (despite indication in Task Manager Applications)
well, autopatcher creates an .bat file to run the updates. if by any reason the .bat didn't ended, then autopatcher will think that has to wait. that us to be related to an update. if is the case, you may close autopatcher, reboot and run again

by the way... running autopatcher like this will bypass the agreement screen: autopatcher.exe /nolicense

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[GeordieLad]

Cristiano, on 11 January 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

> MUCH longer than 30 seconds
the time required to that is related to the computer specs. in fast computers, it us to load in seconds

> After waiting an hour or so
that wasn't supposed to happen. are you sure that you wasn't stucked into the agreements screen? if your computer is too slow, you can remove the .rti files. in this way, autopatcher will show as unofficial, you will not know if everything was downloaded ok, but it will load a lot faster

> Autopatcher seems to have halted (despite indication in Task Manager Applications)
well, autopatcher creates an .bat file to run the updates. if by any reason the .bat didn't ended, then autopatcher will think that has to wait. that us to be related to an update. if is the case, you may close autopatcher, reboot and run again

by the way... running autopatcher like this will bypass the agreement screen: autopatcher.exe /nolicense

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Hi Christiano,

Thanks for those pointers. Taking them in order:

"much longer than 30 seconds" - my PC is a 2.5GHz Celeron with 2GB memory which I thought should be OK.

"after waiting an hour or so" - nope, I had not bypassed the license screesn; I accepted both before proceeding.

about .bat file: don't know if that was created when autopatcher ran (I don't see it in the list of files in the extracted apup folder or its sub-folders)

re gUITaR_mIkE's comments:

Yes, I may have been running Autopatcher from a flash drive: is that bad?

Regarding the 193 items for update, I had no control over that. There were only the 3 default boxes ticked (the third, I think, is for XP) but you should be aware that I had held off doing ANY XP updates following SP2 many moons ago until I defragged the drive and installed SP3 a couple of days ago.

Do either of you have any further advice or explanation?

Edited by GeordieLad, 11 January 2011 - 11:30 PM.

[GeordieLad]

GeordieLad, on 11 January 2011 - 11:17 PM, said:

Hi Christiano,

Thanks for those pointers. Taking them in order:

"much longer than 30 seconds" - my PC is a 2.5GHz Celeron with 2GB memory which I thought should be OK.

"after waiting an hour or so" - nope, I had not bypassed the license screesn; I accepted both before proceeding.

about .bat file: don't know if that was created when autopatcher ran (I don't see it in the list of files in the extracted apup folder or its sub-folders)

re gUITaR_mIkE's comments:

Yes, I may have been running Autopatcher from a flash drive: is that bad?

Regarding the 193 items for update, I had no control over that. There were only the 3 default boxes ticked (the third, I think, is for XP) but you should be aware that I had held off doing ANY XP updates following SP2 many moons ago until I defragged the drive and installed SP3 a couple of days ago.

Do either of you have any further advice or explanation?

more from GeordieLad:

Correction to my first response re gUITaR_mIkE's comments: Have rechecked and realised that it was NOT from a flash drive but from a CD onto which I'd burned all files exctracted from apup131.zip.

Hope that's clarified matters.

Edited by GeordieLad, 11 January 2011 - 11:39 PM.

[Cristiano]

> I may have been running Autopatcher from a flash drive: is that bad?
flash drives and cd/dvd drives us to be a lot slow to load/check the files. usb devices us to be a lot faster, but the specs of the device helps a lot. by instance, i have an patriot (200x) that was designed to work as ready boost. due that feature, it is a lot faster than the ordinary ones. one advice: copy the files to the local disk. it will decrease a lot the loading and the deployment

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Edited by Cristiano, 11 January 2011 - 11:50 PM.