Cristiano quitting?
dfdff3000
24 Jan 2011
In case anybody missed it, I happened to read in this thread and noticed something that gUiTaR_mIkE had said. Prior to that, the only thing I had noticed was that spam was beginning to build up in the forums (well, that, plus some questions weren't being answered). I believe that Cristiano was the one on spam patrol too, lol. A quick glance at the Recent Status Updates indicates that Cristiano has indeed quit 
. That is incredibly unfortunate for us as users, since he was the maintainer for several of the releases (for me, the XP SP3 and the Addon Packs). I have to question gUiTaR_mIkE's future involvement after reading this thread too. gUiTaR_mIkE has proven quite helpful in resolving various problems that have cropped up in releases in the past. I suppose it'd be hard to help when there is nobody to assist 
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I hope that Cristiano changes his mind - but in the likely event that that doesn't happen, I'd like to thank him for his years of dedication to this project. Same goes for gUiTaR_mIkE, who I suspect might still be reading the forums and assisting when he can.
dkdk_it, please stick around. You're all we have left! In case nobody has done it recently, thank you for everything you continue to do for the Autopatcher project. And, again, thank you to Cristiano. Hope life treats you well ...
. That is incredibly unfortunate for us as users, since he was the maintainer for several of the releases (for me, the XP SP3 and the Addon Packs). I have to question gUiTaR_mIkE's future involvement after reading this thread too. gUiTaR_mIkE has proven quite helpful in resolving various problems that have cropped up in releases in the past. I suppose it'd be hard to help when there is nobody to assist .I hope that Cristiano changes his mind - but in the likely event that that doesn't happen, I'd like to thank him for his years of dedication to this project. Same goes for gUiTaR_mIkE, who I suspect might still be reading the forums and assisting when he can.
dkdk_it, please stick around. You're all we have left! In case nobody has done it recently, thank you for everything you continue to do for the Autopatcher project. And, again, thank you to Cristiano. Hope life treats you well ...
_def_x_
24 Jan 2011
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Cristiano..., I'd like to thank him for his years of dedication to this project
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dkdk_it..., thank you for everything you continue to do for the Autopatcher project.
It would be wrong to forget a few who operate behind the scenes and have made the project possible, and that is Frank, Caesar, and throw Jason in as well - thank you for your efforts
Let's not forget Antony, for without his updates to the software, we would not have the ability to update a Windows 7 machine.I will always appreciate the easy work of updating a Windows system this little utility provides, and because of this I try to help as best I can on the forums - as imperfect though I am. I will continue to assist as long as the forums active.
dfdff3000
24 Jan 2011
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Same goes for Domenico, without his help AutoPatcher would have stopped a long time ago.
Ooops, I thought dkdk_it was Domenico? Sorry if I was wrong about that, lol.
If I was wrong, my apologies. You're absolutely correct. Domenico deserves a ton of gratitude as well. I'd have given cudos to the rest of the contributors as well. I just wasn't aware of the behind the scenes goings on. But now that I'm aware, thanks also to Frank, Caesar, Jason, and Antony
. Glad to see that you're still willing to help out too gUiTaR_mIkE.
Cristiano
24 Jan 2011
i know that i've said that i will not login into this forum again, but i still read it. since no one of the admins was MAN enough to say nothing, let's try make an little chronology to try explain why i've quit:
- a few years ago, erik has quit. the reasons: he was basically working alone, forgetting about his own life, his beloveds, etc;
- then, one of erik beta testers (aka james) has joined the team and we was working night and day to make the things work. james even did an task that wasn't supposed to (like replace that garbage of captcha by recaptcha. the difference? one can be readed easily by any automatic spam bot, the other one, don't). that task was supposed to be from the owner of this site (aka frank and/or caesar), but none of them was reachable for months;
- finally, we realized that to put an end to the spammers (because we had access to the admin control panel, but we didn't had rights enough to update the forum software, that could help a lot), we had to set a lot of undesired measures, like lock most of the free mail accounts to activate the account and also set IP bans. also yours may have noticed, there's a dozen of bad words that was banned as well (not all english bad words, because i didn't born speaking english and my vocabulary to this kind of word is very limited. this did any problem to the users? it bring problems to ourselves, in deed. james had an gmail account and once said that if we set an ban to gmail (the host of 99% of the email accounts taken to register spammers in here) we was setting an ban to himself. well, that just locks the new accounts, not the old ones. also, to be honest, yahoo was locked as well (and guess where my email is?). of course, it stopped the spam at once. i can look into the log of bans that i was doing and take a few dates, but to be practical, we had 1 spam every 6 months, if so
- then, james has quit. for months, i've tried reach frank (and to be honest, i didn't had any hope of this). as an miracle, he replied. i almost had an stroke when he said that was bringing new blood, that the old guys was coming back, etc. the forum software was even updated. this in did was an huge joy and to make the things work again, i've toke almost all the scripts and started to work with. please notice that at that time, i had 2 jobs and my paid works was from 8am to 2am, every single day one the week. no vacations, no nothing and besides that, i had my own life, an wife and a few cats;
- one day, my work load finally stroke and my marriage was over. yes, i was working a lot in deed, but i've said to anybody that she had leukemia and didn't had any job due that? no, i think that i didn't said that to no one and toke that as my own fault. for months, i was a lot depressive, but i was still working. and no, this isn't any lie, she is alive and well even today, but has moved to Rio de Janeiro. today, we are nothing more than friends, but ok
- to help my depression at that time, i had an fight with the wrong person at my job (the other one was as self-employed) and my life become an real nightmare. but i still was working;
- after an long time, i've got an girlfriend, just to loose her after a few months due my work load. that's ok, i've realized then that my workload was too high and quit from my work as self-employed. i remember that some guys said that i was being crazy, because i was quitting from the job that paid me more, but i also didn't had an "that's it" time and i also deserve an life. also, i've found another girlfriend and loose an girlfriend again due my job was really out of the question. also, at that time, i've started to fix some issues that was bothering me since long ago. with that, i've discovered and i've already have lost part of my left kidney (about 3cm and was growing 0,6cm by month) without any particular reason, my doctor only said that my stress level was too high and i had to decrease it. at the same day than the doctor said that, my work as self employed was history. no more and i've started to fix a few other things that was increasing that. even now, i'm with an metallic smile (sorry, i don't know the proper name for it in english). due some reason that i don't know for sure, i've started to sleep a lot better and i no longer require any medicine to breath. i hope that be like that forever, but so far, so good
- then, an user has reported an issue with url123. also we was without any right to reach the forum control panel anymore (this was the very first action taken after that so called "new blood" thing), i've tried reach frank again. and it worked. frank has fixed the issue, by upgrading the forum software. at this point, my nightmare has started: spam, spam and more spam, the forum only had that. some days, we was having 5-6 spams and lock the user didn't worked (of course not. they wasn't being banned by ip, nor we had any free mail lock anymore). it was really hard, but tracking those guys, i've realized that all the restrictions for registration was out... what i've did? i've tried reach frank again. no reply. by luck, i've saw that caesar was logged and send him an pm. i know that he has readed it, but no reply. some time after that, i've finally reached frank, that said that my mails was going straight to the garbage. that's ok, it happens. he said any word about unlock the free email domains? no. we only said that "gmail wasn't the problem". at that point, i've realized that i was being an idiot by working day and night to keep the things running, without any hope or tool to put an end to all those spams. the only one thing that i could do was ban them, one at a time over and over (to someone amusement, perhaps?). when i've realized that, i've noticed that i was doing all this alone, for nothing, that i already have lost some of the people that i've loved and that's it. everybody patience some day runs out. and mine was over
oh yes, the so called "new blood", so far, i didn't saw it. and no, i don't have any patience anymore to keep mailing someone that will reply only when rains (or something like that).
so, i've quit. some of the things that i've already lost are forever. before i loose all that remains, i've quit
i'm pretty sure that this will bring a lot of extra work to domenico, i'm pretty sure that a lot of users will stay without any reply and that the project may even die due that, but that's it.
before criticize, read the post and put yourself in my place
thanks for your patience by reading this, but it is like it is. some things may be out of time index, but it's it anyway
ps: i've saw a lot of spam over the forum, but i will not ban or erase it. that job is to the ones that have unlocked pandora's box
oh yes, the reasons that make erik quit are all still present, without any change
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Edited by Cristiano, 24 January 2011 - 08:53 PM.
- a few years ago, erik has quit. the reasons: he was basically working alone, forgetting about his own life, his beloveds, etc;
- then, one of erik beta testers (aka james) has joined the team and we was working night and day to make the things work. james even did an task that wasn't supposed to (like replace that garbage of captcha by recaptcha. the difference? one can be readed easily by any automatic spam bot, the other one, don't). that task was supposed to be from the owner of this site (aka frank and/or caesar), but none of them was reachable for months;
- finally, we realized that to put an end to the spammers (because we had access to the admin control panel, but we didn't had rights enough to update the forum software, that could help a lot), we had to set a lot of undesired measures, like lock most of the free mail accounts to activate the account and also set IP bans. also yours may have noticed, there's a dozen of bad words that was banned as well (not all english bad words, because i didn't born speaking english and my vocabulary to this kind of word is very limited. this did any problem to the users? it bring problems to ourselves, in deed. james had an gmail account and once said that if we set an ban to gmail (the host of 99% of the email accounts taken to register spammers in here) we was setting an ban to himself. well, that just locks the new accounts, not the old ones. also, to be honest, yahoo was locked as well (and guess where my email is?). of course, it stopped the spam at once. i can look into the log of bans that i was doing and take a few dates, but to be practical, we had 1 spam every 6 months, if so
- then, james has quit. for months, i've tried reach frank (and to be honest, i didn't had any hope of this). as an miracle, he replied. i almost had an stroke when he said that was bringing new blood, that the old guys was coming back, etc. the forum software was even updated. this in did was an huge joy and to make the things work again, i've toke almost all the scripts and started to work with. please notice that at that time, i had 2 jobs and my paid works was from 8am to 2am, every single day one the week. no vacations, no nothing and besides that, i had my own life, an wife and a few cats;
- one day, my work load finally stroke and my marriage was over. yes, i was working a lot in deed, but i've said to anybody that she had leukemia and didn't had any job due that? no, i think that i didn't said that to no one and toke that as my own fault. for months, i was a lot depressive, but i was still working. and no, this isn't any lie, she is alive and well even today, but has moved to Rio de Janeiro. today, we are nothing more than friends, but ok
- to help my depression at that time, i had an fight with the wrong person at my job (the other one was as self-employed) and my life become an real nightmare. but i still was working;
- after an long time, i've got an girlfriend, just to loose her after a few months due my work load. that's ok, i've realized then that my workload was too high and quit from my work as self-employed. i remember that some guys said that i was being crazy, because i was quitting from the job that paid me more, but i also didn't had an "that's it" time and i also deserve an life. also, i've found another girlfriend and loose an girlfriend again due my job was really out of the question. also, at that time, i've started to fix some issues that was bothering me since long ago. with that, i've discovered and i've already have lost part of my left kidney (about 3cm and was growing 0,6cm by month) without any particular reason, my doctor only said that my stress level was too high and i had to decrease it. at the same day than the doctor said that, my work as self employed was history. no more and i've started to fix a few other things that was increasing that. even now, i'm with an metallic smile (sorry, i don't know the proper name for it in english). due some reason that i don't know for sure, i've started to sleep a lot better and i no longer require any medicine to breath. i hope that be like that forever, but so far, so good
- then, an user has reported an issue with url123. also we was without any right to reach the forum control panel anymore (this was the very first action taken after that so called "new blood" thing), i've tried reach frank again. and it worked. frank has fixed the issue, by upgrading the forum software. at this point, my nightmare has started: spam, spam and more spam, the forum only had that. some days, we was having 5-6 spams and lock the user didn't worked (of course not. they wasn't being banned by ip, nor we had any free mail lock anymore). it was really hard, but tracking those guys, i've realized that all the restrictions for registration was out... what i've did? i've tried reach frank again. no reply. by luck, i've saw that caesar was logged and send him an pm. i know that he has readed it, but no reply. some time after that, i've finally reached frank, that said that my mails was going straight to the garbage. that's ok, it happens. he said any word about unlock the free email domains? no. we only said that "gmail wasn't the problem". at that point, i've realized that i was being an idiot by working day and night to keep the things running, without any hope or tool to put an end to all those spams. the only one thing that i could do was ban them, one at a time over and over (to someone amusement, perhaps?). when i've realized that, i've noticed that i was doing all this alone, for nothing, that i already have lost some of the people that i've loved and that's it. everybody patience some day runs out. and mine was over
oh yes, the so called "new blood", so far, i didn't saw it. and no, i don't have any patience anymore to keep mailing someone that will reply only when rains (or something like that).
so, i've quit. some of the things that i've already lost are forever. before i loose all that remains, i've quit
i'm pretty sure that this will bring a lot of extra work to domenico, i'm pretty sure that a lot of users will stay without any reply and that the project may even die due that, but that's it.
before criticize, read the post and put yourself in my place
thanks for your patience by reading this, but it is like it is. some things may be out of time index, but it's it anyway
ps: i've saw a lot of spam over the forum, but i will not ban or erase it. that job is to the ones that have unlocked pandora's box
oh yes, the reasons that make erik quit are all still present, without any change
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Edited by Cristiano, 24 January 2011 - 08:53 PM.
_def_x_
24 Jan 2011
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Ooops, I thought dkdk_it was Domenico?
Btw, I guess we confirmed the 'quiting' -
Post #4 wasn't there when I was typing which makes my comment dumb (nothing unusual here
) - just wanted to clarify.
Edited by gUiTaR_mIkE, 24 January 2011 - 09:08 PM.
_def_x_
24 Jan 2011
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before criticize, read the post and put yourself in my place
You got rid of me after a disagreement (without any explanation you demoted me because you got mad) and I know Erik asked to help out and you turned him away as well. I know the issue was who would do Windows 7, I think that was the release, you said Domenico was already taking care of it. I wasn't sure why something wasn't worked out with Erik. Domenico expressed concerne over only 2 of you doing it all, I don't know why he would not have given 7 to Erik.
Anyway, I have a feeling this will get misunderstood but I figured I would express my opinion since you expressed yours. Bottom line for me is - you are all appreciated and there is always another side but sometimes it is ignored or unheard, I am sorry for the issue myself
Cristiano
24 Jan 2011
dkdk_is Domenico
> you gave me the impression you wanted to do everything on your own
not quite right. but if no one else does the job that is required to, who else will do, besides you? of course, update the scripts isn't the problem, if this is the only task and someone else does the support that comes with that service. who else will do? domenico? he has his own forum to take care of
> you demoted me because you got mad
first rule of any job: don't fight against your own. besides, you have asked for that (or you have forgot about?)
> I know Erik asked to help out and you turned him away
i think that there's an disagreement with that. you may not be aware of, but erik has his own problems. besides of that, he was supposed to talk with domenico about that and i don't know if he did it. as you know (or may not know, i don't know), domenico was holding the script that erik was thinking about take again. if he was updating that, the only one that could say something was him, not me. besides, i've talked with erik a few days ago and he was thinking about hold the office scripts again, but as nothing has changed in here, he said that will not do it
> I don't know why he would not have given 7 to Erik
neither me. but if he was doing that, domenico shouldn't be asked about before give it away? it's just that that i've said, nothing more
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> you gave me the impression you wanted to do everything on your own
not quite right. but if no one else does the job that is required to, who else will do, besides you? of course, update the scripts isn't the problem, if this is the only task and someone else does the support that comes with that service. who else will do? domenico? he has his own forum to take care of
> you demoted me because you got mad
first rule of any job: don't fight against your own. besides, you have asked for that (or you have forgot about?)
> I know Erik asked to help out and you turned him away
i think that there's an disagreement with that. you may not be aware of, but erik has his own problems. besides of that, he was supposed to talk with domenico about that and i don't know if he did it. as you know (or may not know, i don't know), domenico was holding the script that erik was thinking about take again. if he was updating that, the only one that could say something was him, not me. besides, i've talked with erik a few days ago and he was thinking about hold the office scripts again, but as nothing has changed in here, he said that will not do it
> I don't know why he would not have given 7 to Erik
neither me. but if he was doing that, domenico shouldn't be asked about before give it away? it's just that that i've said, nothing more
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_def_x_
25 Jan 2011
The most important issue here is (in my opinion), you're getting your life together. You've been saying your life was falling apart for a few years now and it sounds like things are looking bright again, this is good, I'm happy for you.
No, I haven't. What you fail to mention is you have a bad way when it comes to disputes - you treat people, at least you treated me like I was your son and you were my father - not that we were two people working together. You had asked me to be mindful of anything I did and get an OK before I did anything, we had a dispute when you didn't offer the same courtesy to me. When I talked to you as a man, not as a child you got mad, kind of like how you got defensive of my suggestion of fixing up the descriptions in the apm files. I'm a man, not a boy, I'm used to being able to have an adult discussion even if there may be a disagreement, this was hard for you.
If in fact you felt you were superior to me, OK, that's fine, most bosses at least offer an apology for things not working out regardless of who was at fault. I know you have been upset for a long time about all the people who have left without an explanation and have ignored your PMs, you felt ignored, or slighted, and yet you were doing the same thing to me.
Anyway, I'm sure Frank will shut this all down soon but until then I will be around. I hope you find happiness in all you do, and I mean this in all sincerity - your work was and is appreciated, I hope you know that.
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first rule of any job: don't fight against your own. besides, you have asked for that (or you have forgot about?)
If in fact you felt you were superior to me, OK, that's fine, most bosses at least offer an apology for things not working out regardless of who was at fault. I know you have been upset for a long time about all the people who have left without an explanation and have ignored your PMs, you felt ignored, or slighted, and yet you were doing the same thing to me.
Anyway, I'm sure Frank will shut this all down soon but until then I will be around. I hope you find happiness in all you do, and I mean this in all sincerity - your work was and is appreciated, I hope you know that.
TechSwap
27 Jan 2011
I can't advocate bad or good here but I will admit for those that did work on the Autopatcher this was a welcome reprive from using the dreaded windows update that sometimes caused more problems then it helped in solving as well. I still applaud those willing to give their effort and time to help users of various windows O/S to better improve their system and updates to give them a better computing usage and experiences. We all have give and takes and disagreements but if we can agree to disagree in a moderated way we can always come to a middle ground to find a solution ambient to the problem. Not all problems can be fixed or remedy right away but addressing the problem in conversation with understanding we can at least come to common ground to at least address the problems afflicting all the users of Windows in all languages. I am in no part advocating one person over another so that others don't get the wrong idea. We all have ideas it's how we treat others ideas and how we converse ideas and comments back and forth that we can address problems for the Autopatcher users and the Autopatcher programmers to give a good if not better program that will still be around for sometime to come in the future.
click-click
28 Jan 2011
Sorry to hear this. Now I have nothing to verify my RyanVM UpdatePack with. 
TechSwap
28 Jan 2011
click-click, on 28 January 2011 - 12:13 AM, said:
Sorry to hear this. Now I have nothing to verify my RyanVM UpdatePack with.
I think they will still keep this going in the near future...
