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Black Ghost's Photo Black Ghost 28 Jul 2011

Hope you can get a beta version of Windows 8 when They do it. That way you can work the bugs out and get it ready for Windows 8 too. Would love to give it a try. Auto patcher has saved me lots of time.
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 31 Jul 2011

im just trying to work out the windows 7 bugs now... what a pain. lol
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DesertJerry's Photo DesertJerry 07 Aug 2011

Have you checked out WSUS Offline - http://download.wsusoffline.net/ - it appears it may have possibilites whencompared to AutoPatcher?
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 07 Aug 2011

Wsus does offer some things that apup does not at the moment, such as the ability to download for a specific system, and create iso's. They have no system detection tho. You can't put it on a system and it will detect what you have and select the things you need. The detection part is the hardest part. All of ther commands are run from command line too it seems. I do like that they support legacy stuff tho. Everything that wsus does is already planned for in apup. Apups biggest advantage is that it can be expanded by the users ie... anyone. wsus can only download windows updates. Apup will allow the downloading of anything provided a script is created. I may be wrong in some of the things I said but, it is what I have gleamed from looking at wsus.
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 08 Aug 2011

Thanks to user babcocca, domenico(he doesn't know it but, he inadvertently helped solve the problem), and lots of testing from christiano I have figured out the problems with windows 7. Yaye. Now on to fixing smaller problems.
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dkdk_it's Photo dkdk_it 08 Aug 2011

View PostViroMan, on 08 August 2011 - 05:03 AM, said:

domenico(he doesn't know it but, he inadvertently helped solve the problem), and lots of testing from christiano I have figured out the problems with windows 7. Yaye. Now on to fixing smaller problems.

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Coastie's Photo Coastie 04 Sep 2011

any usable progress? Is this alternative project still moving forward?
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 04 Sep 2011

2 more things to finish before its publicly releasable.

1) Getting the cancel download button to work when you tell it to stop... not after it finishes one file. (Thats happening due to not being multi threaded... easy fix but im making it complicated by throwing in the ability for parallel downloads, although I won't enable more then one download till I do some testing.)

2) A little bit more testing on the scripts needs to be done. We had a problem a while ago and I believe it was fixed but, need to do some testing on it.(the rename command wasn't renaming and the delete command sometimes didn't delete. Not big issues of course but, that could mean that other commands might fail under some situations.)

Other then those two there are only minor things to do during the public beta.
* Use detection scripts instead of detections programmed in. (40% done)
* Ability to either make Zips or ISO of download after finish. (5%)
* Support for other languages. [All the text in your language] (0%)
* Getting the speed to report the proper speed. [Indy doesn't seem to have an easy way to do this] (0%)
* Tons of other things I forget.
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Black Ghost's Photo Black Ghost 05 Sep 2011

Sounds good. Can not wait to give it a test run. This sounds really good. Will help lots.
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 05 Sep 2011

Well I got some more testing done today on the scripts and they seem to work fine except dos commands. We are probably going to rewrite all the apup scripts to remove dos commands. It allows more control when using internal script commands anyways. This will split the scripts into two sets of scripts... new and old. The new scripts won't really work with the old apup even though technically they "should" work. They won't work due to apup never really could do some of the commands it was supposed to do properly. The new scripts will probably be under "release.list2" or something easy to notice the difference.

After the new scripts are done a public beta will be held even if I don't finish the cancel download button in time. Posted Image
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 08 Sep 2011

New scripts are done and we are waiting for them to be looked over and tested to work before we upload them. I was given a "maby done by this weekend". Soon apup2 for all the brave testers.

Before people start testing and getting crashes... apup2 still has problems with some firewalls/antivirus that let apup2 connect but then the firewall kills the connection after some data is downloaded. im still looking into why. (norton and kaspersky 2012,[ 2011 works fine])
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Black Ghost's Photo Black Ghost 08 Sep 2011

Hope Adobe Air 3.0, Abode Flash Player 11, and Silverlight 5 get add when they come out. All are in RC right now.
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Cristiano's Photo Cristiano 08 Sep 2011

they will. just now there's a lot of job to be done. but hey, viroman has figured a dozen of crashes today and apup2 is now working with KIS enabled. a few things here, a few things there and we will have an public test :)

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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 13 Sep 2011

Ok the new scripts are uploaded to the site and are working fine. All I need now is approval from my 2 current testers to wrap up the new apup and post it here.
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Cristiano's Photo Cristiano 14 Sep 2011

it's pretty, pretty close to that. with the latest build, i've just noticed that the replaced updates shows as "moved" and wait to the user hits an ok. that should be silent, because the user may leave and the download will wait for an user action. the progress bar is full after something like 6% of download, if the user does the worst thing possible (aka download everything at once, that i'm doing right now). this test will take a few hours to complete, but no crashes so far. i've also got an "disconnected by peer". i don't know about what can be done about that and also an message about "d... timer" that also waits for an user action

but hey, this seems to be the best apup ever done, with features long waited for everybody and due this serious bug tracking, i think that all the know problems will be fixed

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Coastie's Photo Coastie 15 Sep 2011

glad to see the progress, looking forward to it :)
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 16 Sep 2011

lol well I keep adding more abilities to apup2 so I can't get the damn thing into a finish able state to release. I find a bug I fix it... while fixing it I come up with a new thing to add... new thing causes bugs... fix them... new idea.... ect.

Either me or cristiano will post some pics of the program while its running shortly. so you can all drool on your monitor.
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 16 Sep 2011

Ok ... cristiano went to bed before I could ask him... so here are the pics..

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This picture is what you will see when you first turn it on... YAYE! Ya, no.... it looks boring but, I don't want it to auto download the list because you might have another list you want it to download... if thats the case hit the options button.


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In the options window we can see many useful things. Somethings YOU the user will not see when it goes public like the debug: dont download option and maby the parallel downloads(im still working on it). The blank empty space is a placeholder for the after downloads options, to make zips or iso's.


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Does this need an explanation? I don't think so.


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Anyone want a sexy download progress window?


Make sure to wipe your keyboard and monitor down when your done drooling or what ever nasty things you might be doing.

PS we will soon hold a contest for APUP2's icon. Current icon is a default icon from Borland its crappy and is not related to AutoPatcher. You users will make us an icon and everyone will vote which is best and I will put it in.
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Black Ghost's Photo Black Ghost 16 Sep 2011

I saw that the list does not show Office 2010. Will it be done too? Thanks and looks good so far.
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ViroMan's Photo ViroMan 16 Sep 2011

Well the list shows what ever is in the release.list. I don't have control over that. Domenico or Crisiano can answer that since they are the script managers.

Right now I think Domenico is working on the common modules... someone complained about the X86 and X64 so he is splitting it up. Looks like he went to bed before he finished because the common module will not download at the moment.
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