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[Bethrezen]

hi all

This may well have been asked before but since the main page is gone and I can't find the answer I'll ask here.

I just reinstalled XP Home SP3 and of course I now need to patch it with all the latest fixes etc. so I downloaded Autopatcher double clicked on apup.exe however I'm not sure which boxes need to be checked to get it working because only Autopatcher For Windows XP SP3 (x86) is checked and this only downloads the relevant patches for my system this doesn't download the actual Autopatcher program and it's here where I'm coming a little unstuck because I'm not 100% on which other boxes I need to check besides Autopatcher For Windows XP SP3 (x86)

Normally these would be checked automatically when you click the apup.exe but for some reason there not checked automatically in the latest version http://www.autopatch.../apup131NEW.zip

So i just wanted to check is it just the top two Autopatcher Updater 1.3.0.1 & Autopatcher Engine 5.6.0.100 that need to be checked in addition to Autopatcher For Windows XP SP3 (x86)

Edited by Bethrezen, 16 May 2012 - 02:20 PM.

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Bethrezen, on 16 May 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

hi all

This may well have been asked before but since the main page is gone and I can't find the answer I'll ask here.

Just a few times, really, this is a pretty common question, how do I get started - see http://www.autopatch...228 - the download link to the zip file is dead due to forum changes but everything else applies. The 4GB limit is dealt with in APUP2. If you use the beta apup file don't select AutoPatcher Updater, it will delete the beta and redownload 1.3.

Bethrezen, on 16 May 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

I just reinstalled XP Home SP3 and of course I now need to patch it with all the latest fixes etc. so I downloaded Autopatcher double clicked on apup.exe however I'm not sure which boxes need to be checked to get it working because only Autopatcher For Windows XP SP3 (x86) is checked and this only downloads the relevant patches for my system this doesn't download the actual Autopatcher program and it's here where I'm coming a little unstuck because I'm not 100% on which other boxes I need to check besides Autopatcher For Windows XP SP3 (x86)

Normally these would be checked automatically when you click the apup.exe but for some reason there not checked automatically in the latest version - http://www.autopatch.../apup131NEW.zip

2 things:

First, AutoPatcher Engine is AutoPatcher (autopatcher.exe), AutoPatcher Updater is APUP (apup.exe), it's a good idea to have these 2 selected along with any other releases you want, this way the programs will stay updated. Don't forget the warning about using beta apps, any beta in the folder in most cases will get deleted, right now only apup2.exe (beta) - if you try APUP2, uncheck AutoPatcher Updater from the releases list.

Come to think of it, I haven't looked at the script in ages but it would seem you could have both executables in the same folder if one was apup2.exe and the other was apup.exe, anyway, see the warning here - http://www.autopatch...apup2-download/

Second, You want at least the 3 boxes selected, any other release is an addon and up to your discretion, whether it be the DirectX or .NET package - whatever. The only problem is how you update a system when you need to install EVERYTHING!

I do all major updates first and individually, if I want to add DirectX I do it alone, reboot. .NET, same, alone, reboot. You could easily freeze a system if not outright break it by selecting everything to update at once, you could have so much stuck in RAM your system would puke, updates stepping on other updates. AutoPatcher provides these packages for experienced users who have a proper sequence that works for them, but we've had users come in here and gripe after they selected literally everything to install all at the same time - the OS with DirectX, .NET, while updating IE from 6 to 7 - simply crazy.

A smarter approach is to update your install disk every year (some time interval) so you get most of it done with a new OS install, leaving less to install using AutoPatcher. Many people like RyanVM for this - Google is your friend but be warned, their forums are busy with lots of pages of info and it's not hard to get overwhelmed. If I didn't already have my approach I'm not sure I would survive at RyanVM - too much info and too many packages Don't let me dissuade you, have a look, lots of people over there to help.

Bethrezen, on 16 May 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

So i just wanted to check is it just the top two Autopatcher Updater 1.3.0.1 & Autopatcher Engine 5.6.0.100 that need to be checked in addition to Autopatcher For Windows XP SP3 (x86)

These 3, or at least the first 2 and the native OS for now will be selected, APUP2 (still beta) may have done away with the pre selection, I forget. You also have the Options tab but it only matters after the first run on a given system.

[ViroMan]

You can safely have both versions of apup in the same folder. Downloading apup from apup2 will not overwrite apup2. I simply put that warning there to tell people that it won't download updates for apup2.
Good post def x

[Bethrezen]

hi

thanks for your reply I kinda I figured just wanted to make sure.

I've got my windows disk slipstreamed to SP3, I tried slip streaming hot fixes but some how it never seems to work correctly, not sure why but when I test the ISO in a VM I end up with all sorts of annoying problems like reboot loops for example, so I figured the easier thing to do would be to just update my disk to SP3 and then just manually apply hot fixes and manually update various components like DirectX etc. Its a bit slower but at least everything works when I'm done.

Autopatcher is a big help here because windows update doesn't seem to show all available hot fixes and updates for my system for some reason, even after windows update says my system is fully updated Autopatcher always shows dozens of available patches.

At the moment it’s showing 16 patches under critical updates, patches that should be showing on windows update but for some reason don't and then about a dozen under recommended updates, which again are not showing on windows update, very annoying.

talking of updates after applying the directx_Jun2010_redist.exe I ran the Direct X web updater and that was showing a few more updates for Direct X about 6mb worth Autopatcher doesn't seem to show these updates so might want to have someone add them.

[ViroMan]

what you can do is use this tool to download all the updates then use nLight to make a new XP disk to slipstream all these updates and what ever drivers you want to into the new install disk. I did that with mine.

The 4 of those 16 updates are redundant downloads that are removed in the next update that is in testing right now. The others are hotfixes. They fix things that people normally have to go directly to Microsoft site and search for the issue and find the download to fix it. We supply the fix so you don't have to go find the fix to do it yourself.

The direct X we have has not been updated in a while... I guess it does need to be touched up a bit..

Edited by ViroMan, 18 May 2012 - 09:01 PM.