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[PsiMoon314]

Hi Cyrus,

Cyrus, on Dec 5 2007, 11:18 PM, said:

@PsiMoon314, .NET 1.0 could just be updated to .NET 1.1 and that sould take care of the problem.

I am pretty sure that .NET 1.0 and .NET 1.1 are different enough that the latter does not replace the former.

Unlike later .NET releases these two are separate so installing .NET 1.1 doesn't update or change .NET 1.0

In any event on PC's with .NET 1.1 and later versions installed you do get updates for .NET 1.0 appearing in Windows Update.

Kind Regards

Simon

[Cristiano]

well, according to windows update:
KB890830 - 12/2007 - http://go.microsoft....k/?LinkId=39987
KB942763 - daylight save time - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942763
KB941568 - Microsoft DirectShow - http://go.microsoft..../?LinkId=104988
KB941569 - Windows Media - http://go.microsoft....k/?LinkId=99075
KB942615 - cumulative update to IE7 - http://go.microsoft..../?LinkID=101160
KB944653 - Driver Macrovision - http://go.microsoft..../?LinkId=104987
KB937894 - MSMQ - http://go.microsoft....k/?LinkID=94666

and, of course, an fun update: 2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 1 (SP1)

why fun? easy. since ages ago, i don't have msoffice in here. long, long time ago, i once had installed an trial version of that office 2007 that i removed less than 1 day after install. and it still is showed also an needed update. ok, perhaps BrOffice needs an update...

[Erik Ramey]

Already working on every single one of those. Let's see how my first patch Tuesday for Windows works out now.

[Erik Ramey]

December Updates are now Live! This weekend I'll try to finally update this thread, but in the mean time, here is what's new:

Critical:
Malicious Software Removal Tool - December 2007 (KB890830 v1.36)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB937894)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB941568)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB941569)
Cumulative Security Update for IE7 for Windows XP SP2 (KB942615)
Cumulative Security Update for IE6 for Windows XP SP2 (KB942615)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB944653)
Automatic Component Activation Preview for IE7 (KB945007)
Automatic Component Activation Preview for IE6 (KB945007)

Non-Critical
Update for Windows XP (KB942763)

Script will now download Critical Updates first from Microsoft

[Cristiano]

Erik, at WU, every single of those updates are critical (except KB945007).

by the way: there's at least 3 "cumulative update for MSIE" in AP update list. some of those wasn't suppose to replace the old one?

off: this weekend i finally had some time free since some time ago and i've worked at AP BR script. i'ts missing now only md5 for install modules. the really painful thing (aka: dozens of updates md5, expected sizes, download locations etc) are all done now. so, in a few days it must be complete

[Erik Ramey]

What cumulative updates are you noticing on your AP? The only replacement for the cumulative this month was KB942615 which replaced KB939653. APUP deletes KB942615.

- I don't know myself why I placed 945007 in critical, I"ll have that fixed later

- The cumulative time zone update KB942763 originally replaced three others which were all optional previously. I can go ahead and place this into critical if that is what WU is showing.

I'll have the above changes implemented later on when I upload the Win 2K updates tonight

[Cristiano]

well, ages ago, blaze once told that KB928090 (IE7) wasn't suppose to be removed because it wasn't fully replaced by the next cumulative update. looking into english modules v3.3, that update isn't in there anymore. ms finally replaced right that one? i'm pretty sure that i've saw another update also "cumulative update for msie" when i was taking direct download links, but i didn't write the kb and i don't remember if there's another one

KB931125 isn't at AP script too. this one, i believe that be because a missing direct download link, right? i've also notice that are missing KB934238, but this one is for non-english and i don't found any direct download link for it too

about timezone, in deed, the last ones was optional in AP. but ms tagged KB942763 also critical this time. if i'm not mistaken, all previews versions of this one was listed also critical in WU too. personally, i don't see any reason for this kb don't be installed also critical, since every daylight save time windows mess with system clock and some services that requires trusted times doesn't work properly. but some other updates are listed also critical in WU too (like MSIE 7) and aren't listed in ap also critical

945007 - it isn't an critical update because it doesn't fix nothing really bad. it just fixes an annoying thing, but just that

> when I upload the Win 2K
that reminds me that i need talk with someone about that. i was away since a long time ago and i still don't know how do that. i will mail gondolas about that.

ps: that crazy thing telling me that i need sp1 for msoffice 2k7 is still there. weird...

ps2: i'm pretty sure that i once talked something about, but is possible add an history of removed stuff? if possible, at hotfix depot, post something like KB999999 replaces KB999998?

[Erik Ramey]

Updated the xp module: Thanks Cristiano!
Moved KB945007 for ie6 & 7 to non-critical
Moved KB942763 to critical

@Cristiano
KB931125 - We actually already have this in apup. This is the Certs roots update.
KB928090 - I'll take a look into this when I'm done with the December updates. For now though, I'm going to leave it out.

[Cristiano]

KB931125, i didn't saw that one. i already had either. i'm not sure why i write that. i just notice that when i was writing the script to build the modules md5 checks (call me lazy if you wish, but i did that just in a few minutes due that). by the way, can you pm me how upload the script? it's missing just 1 final check: see if it works (and i will do that in something like 12h from now)

KB928090 - i even remember blaze words about this one. was something like "stupid, stupid ms", but that words are now in a locked forum at neowin. he said that ms set this one also replaced by the next one (that was true for IE6), but for IE7, they missed 1 component and because of that, that kb should be keeped. i really hope that not forever, but what kb really replaced this one due that issue?

really, really weird. hoping see an message about "fail to install", i've cheked that sp1 for msoffice 2k7 that was at WU. to my surprise, it said was instaled fine. checking at all my machine, i didn't found any trace of an msoffice folder (except for an almost empty folder at msshared). at add/remove, i haven't msoffice either. please, don't tell me that people that have tried msoffice 2k7 need download about 37mb due some sort of issue that this crap heave behind after removed. by the way: this update is set also critical

[FrizzleFry]

What order are the updates listed in AP? Date released?

The following critical update does not seem to appear in AP but is in modules/Critical:

Title=Security Update for WMP 11 for Windows XP (KB936782)
Description=This update fixes a vulnerability in Windows Media Player that could allow remote code execution.
Author=Microsoft
ModuleAuthor=Lyndon Brown
WebPage=http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/MS07-047.mspx
ReleaseDate=20070814

The PC has a fresh install of XP Pro SP2. I ran AP and installed all critical updates.
WMP11 is not installed but this update applies to WMP10 and WMP9 as well.
WMP9 is what is currently installed on this PC.

This one is not in AP at all:
MS06-069: Vulnerabilities in Macromedia Flash Player from Adobe could allow remote code execution (923789)
http://support.micro...kb;EN-US;923789

It applies to the version of Flash Player included in XP SP2.

Here is another one that is not in AP:
MS06-078: Vulnerability in Windows Media Format Could Allow Remote Code Execution (923689)
http://support.micro...kb;EN-US;923689

Edited by FrizzleFry, 20 December 2007 - 07:17 PM.

[Erik Ramey]

@ FizzleFry - Your correct - AP lists and installs updates by the release date of the update. Oldest to Newest

KB923689 - This was replaced by KB941569 which AP includes

KB936782 - AP WinXP x86 doesn't include some updates for WMP 9 & 10 which I have been meaning to look into but is low on my priority list since AP is still missing alot of other updates. I'll have it up there eventually though =)

KB923789 - I believe this isn't included since all you have to do is to install the latest version of Flash Player which resolves this security issue. I'll look into the possibility of adding a module for this update not to display if the newest Flash is installed.

[FrizzleFry]

Erik Ramey, on Dec 20 2007, 02:54 PM, said:

KB923789 - I believe this isn't included since all you have to do is to install the latest version of Flash Player which resolves this security issue. I'll look into the possibility of adding a module for this update not to display if the newest Flash is installed.

Actually I do have the latest Flash player installed but the original flash.ocx file (from SP2 install) was still in C:\Windows\system32\Macromed\Flash\.

I installed both the IE and Firefox Flash players from AP.

When running AP on a freshly installed system should it be done in stages or can you choose components from all sections in one go?
ie, should you do critical updates then reboot and then do other compnents.

[Erik Ramey]

Think of AP just like Microsoft updates. You can install all of the updates at once. After a restart, make sure to run AP again since there are usually prereqs for some of the updates (Like IE7 or WMP 11)

[Cristiano]

i was looking for some infos about some missing modules from apup and, at the end, i've finished with this this list:
KB903234 - replaced by KB925066 (AP don't have KB925066, but has KB903234)
KB908673 - Replaced KB918005 (KB908673 is v2, dated 2007/07/20) (AP don't have KB908673, but has KB918005, that was replaced by KB925528). KB908673 isn't an public release
KB925066 - Replaced KB903234 (AP has KB903234, but don't KB925066, that is not for xp 32 )
KB925528 - Replaced KB918005 (AP don't have KB925528, but has KB918005, that was replaced by KB925528, that isn't public)
KB925720 - replaced by .net 3 sp1. ap has .net 3.5 and had KB925720 in Jul07
KB928595 - Partially updated KB917140 (AP don't have KB928595, nor KB917140). KB928595 is public
KB929123 - Replaces KB923694 and KB933612 Hotfixes. (AP has KB929123, but not KB923694 or KB933612. AP had KB933612 in Jul07)
KB931678 - Replaced KB935214 (AP don't have KB935214 nor KB931678). KB931678 is public
KB933215 - Replaced KB922582 (AP don't have none of those). KB933215 isn't public, but KB922582 is
KB933251 - Replaced KB924191 (AP don't have none of those) KB933251 isn't public
KB933360 - Replaced KB931836 (AP has KB942763, that replaces booth. AP had KB931836 in Jul07)
KB933876 - supersedes KB929755 and KB930916 (AP don't have KB930916, KB929755 or KB933876) KB933876 isn't public, but KB930916 is. KB929755 isn't public
KB933566 - Replaces KB931768 Hotfix. (AP don't have none of those). KB933566 is public, but was replaced by KB937143, that is public
KB933579 - Replaced KB930012; Updated MSXML 6
KB933811 - it's an update to jscript 5.6. AP has 5.7
KB933811 - Replaced KB917344 (AP don't have none of those). KB933811 is for JScript v5.6 and ap has v5.7)
KB935839 - Replaces KB924867 Hotfix (AP has KB924867 and KB935839)
KB936021 - Replaced KB924191; Updated MSXML 3
KB936181 - Replaced KB927978; Updated MSXML 4
KB936357 - replaced with KB936357-v2 (AP don't have). KB936357 is public
KB936455 - Partially updated KB924270 (AP has KB924270 but don't KB936455) KB936455 isn't public
KB936678 - Partially updated KB908519 (AP has KB908519 but don't KB936678) KB936678 isn't public
KB937143 - Replaced KB933566 (AP don't have KB933566 nor KB937143) KB937143 is public
KB938127 - Replaced KB929969 (AP don't have KB929969, but had that in Jul07. AP has KB938127)
KB938828 - Replaced KB918033 (AP don't have KB918033 nor KB938828) KB938828 is public
KB938829 - Partially updated KB925902 (AP has KB925902 and KB938829)
KB939252 - Partially updated KB924270 (AP has KB924270, but not KB939252) KB939252 isn't public
KB939273 - Replaced KB927891 (AP don't have KB927891 nor KB939273) KB939273 isn't public, but KB927891 is
KB939884 - Replaced KB935843 (AP don't have KB935843 nor KB939884) KB939884 isn't public, but KB935843 is
KB940322 - Replaced KB931784 (AP has KB931784, but not KB940322) KB940322 isn't public, but KB931784 is
KB940541 - Replaced KB918997 (AP has KB918997, but don't KB940541) KB940541 isn't public
KB941077 - Replaced KB918118 (AP has KB918118, but not KB941077) KB941077 isn't public
KB941248 - Partially updated KB928255 (AP has KB928255, but not KB941248) KB941248 isn't public

some missing updates in that list are critical and aren't in apup script. some obsolete updates are in apup script yet. in this list, i've removed some updates that aren't public

[Erik Ramey]

I'll try to get what I can up this weekend but due to X-mas, no promises. Please note that public updates will not be included in AP

[Rudy]

Erik Ramey, on Dec 22 2007, 02:48 PM, said:

I'll try to get what I can up this weekend but due to X-mas, no promises. Please note that public updates will not be included in AP

Hi Erik,

have a good Xmas - i think all the user are now in switch off mode, I'm signing off, will be back 7th January

Merry X-Mas and a happy new year to all autopatchers.

[Cristiano]

Erik, that's the idea. only public releases are included in ap in order to be more stable. ok, some of non-public updates already has replaced public releases that ap don't have. so, if ap don't have those that are public, it should be included, even if those are already replaced by non-public fixes. there's even an kb about issues with opening new windows in msie 7 that may very well do an system crash.

[]s

edit:
i've added some of those modules that are in my previews post. this is the remaining list, after removal of those that was already replaced:
KB928595 - added in critical - v5
KB931678 - added in critical - v2
KB922582 - added in critical (this one was in AP in Jun07)
KB930916 - added in non critical (this one was in AP in Jun07)
KB936357 - added in non critical (this one was in AP in Jun07)
KB938828 - added in non critical
KB927891 - added in non critical (this one was in AP in Jun07)
KB935843 - added in non critical (this one was in AP in Jun07)

plus, KB924867 was already replaced by KB935839 and booth are in AP

edit2:
after running clean install tests, i've notice that WU say that KB925720 is needed. in fact, this one was in previews versions of AP. issue: at Microsoft Download Center, the only one version that you can download claims that is from October 2006 and WU says that the newer version if from February 2007. an new version has arrived and isn't at MS Download Center, right? wrong. that file that you may download from MS download center has the exact same md5 for KB925720.CAT than the version that WU calls of Feb 2007. big deal, right? wrong. looking into registry, the build date is Wed Oct 04 07:40:05 2006, for booth versions. plus, if you install that version of October, this update is not showed also needed anymore.

so, i'm adding this one again.

i was almost forgetting: WU also claims also needed KB932471. if you download this one, it doesn't install. reason: this one is an update to .net 3 and apup has .net 3.5, that installs .net 3 sp1 that makes this kb obsolete. so, this one is just an mistake from WU

edit3:
i've found an issue regarding .net 3.5. i'm having troubles with an laptop that doesn't shutdown after re-install and apply all updates. i've realized that is done due an driver of this notepad install some sort of component (d... Acer CrystalEye webcam 5.8.30.500-1.0 and his fake WHQL). so, instead install drivers and then update, i'm trying apply updates and then install the drivers. but there's an issue with .net 3.5 redist: it asks to download about 65MB in updates in order to install. i've taken shortcuts to install, yes, but this say me that .net 3.5 have some sort of pre-req, that shall be added into the apm file to prevent this. someone has some idea about? in my tests, after update all, it still shows also needed something about 12mb, that you just go online and the instalation goes fine without download nothing.

edit4: really, really serious debugging... we missed one update: KB941833. This update resolves reliability and application compatibility issues in Microsoft XML Core Service 4.0 Service Pack 2. (that AP has). so, i'm adding this one too. but this one has also prereq msxml4sp2. better saying: this one replaces msxml4 sp2

[Erik Ramey]

Just wanted to let everybody know that I'll have KB946627 up later tonight for IE6 SP2

[Peter]

Hello Everyone,

I suggest the following addition to Recommended Updates:

KB893357: Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 (WPA2) update for Windows XP

The most important feature of this update is that it enables "WPA2" and "WPA2-PSK" options in the Network Authentication list on the Association tab for the Properties of a wireless network. If your wireless adapter hardware and drivers support WPA2 then all you need is this update to make a WPA2 connection (no other third-party applications required). More info on WPA2 here: http://technet.micro...y/bb878054.aspx

P.S. Great job with APUP so far!

Edited by Peter, 29 December 2007 - 04:55 PM.

[sh1leshk4]

KB893357 has been replaced with KB917021, which current AP scripts already have.