9 replies to this topic

[Pedro]

It doesn't make sense to wait for all the scripts to download (currently its only 523Kb but should increase as more releases are added) and only after ticking the ones you are interested in.

Apup should just download the list of the Available releases (releases.list). The user would then select the ones he wishes to update. Apup should just get the scripts for those selected and proceed.

[Renato]

Thanks, that's a good idea. I'll talk with Antonis about that.

[Antonis]

Right now this is done in order to accurately calculate (instead of estimate) the download size, before the user goes ahead to download. I could remove this if you don't really need it.

[Pedro]

Antonis, I do want the estimation of the download size. But as a third step. Step 1: download and display the releases available; Step 2: the user selects the release(s) he is interested in; Step 3: the scripts for the selected releases only are downloaded with estimation of download size; Step 4: the user unselects the updates he doesn't want (e.g. IE7); Step 5: start downloading updates.

Ideally, in step 4, there should be a "Don't ask me again about this update" and somewhere an option to "Restore hidden updates" like in Windows Update

This is my ideal/perfect vision of APUP

Edited by Pedro, 17 November 2007 - 12:49 AM.

[Cyrus]

It downloaded all updates in the scripts, then when you install you get to choose which to install and which not to. You can say "never install IE7" the way it is now, but only after it's downloaded. As for your steps, I recommend this:
Step 1: download and display the releases available.
Step 2: the user selects the release(s) he is interested in.
Step 3: the download sizes are calculated.
Step 4: the user has a choice to go back and change releases, or continue and download the updates.
Step 5: the end user runs autopatcher.exe as we always have.

Edit: spelling mistake

Edited by Cyrus, 08 November 2007 - 03:56 AM.

[Pedro]

Cyrus, on Nov 8 2007, 03:55 AM, said:

It downloaded all updates in the scripts, then when you install you get to choose which to install and which not to. You can say "never install IE7" the way it is now, but only after it's downloaded.

That is where is disagree. Autopatcher is (among other uses) supposed to be a tool for people without access to wideband on the PCs they wish to update (otherwise they would just use Windows Update
From my point of view, it makes no sense to download and carry around (large) files I'm not going to use.

I see your perspective of having the full set and installing just the wanted components but you can see that if I previously select those not wanted, I can save time, storage space and when updating my PC I don't need to unselect unwanted items again because they aren't simply there

[wroot]

Pedro, on Nov 8 2007, 02:00 PM, said:

That is where is disagree. Autopatcher is (among other uses) supposed to be a tool for people without access to wideband on the PCs they wish to update

really? for me it a tool to have all current downloads in one place to be able to update new installation quickly. i have good connection, but i just dont want to wait for Windows Update to donwload/install all. And especially because of WU wount do this in one time, it would be asking you to restart plenty of times.

[Pedro]

wroot, on Nov 11 2007, 12:46 PM, said:

really? for me it a tool to have all current downloads in one place to be able to update new installation quickly. i have good connection, but i just dont want to wait for Windows Update to donwload/install all. And especially because of WU wount do this in one time, it would be asking you to restart plenty of times.

AutoUpdate has many qualities and many target users (that's why I said "among other uses").

Why do you oppose adding more options? It is not restricting your use, it is simply allowing people to use it differently. Is that a bad thing?

[Cyrus]

It's not a question of would it help, the question is whether or not it is reasonable for Antonis to implement it.

[Sotho Tal Ker]

It surely would be handy for people that don't want to install certain updates like IE7, WMP11 or other things...