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[bizzybody]

I copied the rti and apm files for the latest Java version to their correct places under my AutoPatcher AddOns folder. I then ran apup and selected the Extras Addon pack.

It did not download the latest JRE. It still has 6 update 18.

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@bizzybody

You need to follow the link given on the first page and download yourself the latest Java and place it in the folder - \modules\AddOns\SunJava_x86_files - this is for x86. You need to delete all older versions of Java in the folder. Also, overwrite the .apm and .rti files with the new files as well. I like to delete the old files by hand personally - the old .exe, .apm, and .rti just in case the new files names are slightly different - in this case they wont get deleted and the release will be unofficial.

Java has made it impossible to grab a reusable link this is why the manual approach is needed - for now anyway. Unless you need to have the latest Java in your AutoPatcher release you could simply download the full installer, install using the switch in the .apm file for a silent install, and reboot when installation finishes.

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If I copy the latest Java to my C:\ drive this is the full command using Start - Run

C:\jre-6u22-windows-i586-s.exe /s IEXPLORER=1 MOZILLA=1 REBOOT=ReallySuppress

This will perform a silent install. You want to reboot when the install process is finished, the .apm file waits 120 seconds to complete.

[DesertJerry]

I noticed on the Sun web site when I downloaded JRE-6u22 they recommended that users of 64-bit operating systems; XP Pro x64 and Win7 64-bit, download and install both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the Sun Java runtime. This will then install both versions so that if the user starts either the 32-bit or the 64-bit version of Internet Explorer the updated version of the Java runtime would also be available.

Accepting that recommendation as valid I would now recommend AutoPatcher's APM files be edited so that if the user runs AutoPatcher in a 64-bit environment both versions of the Java runtime are listed as installed or not installed with the option to install both.

Also, this same thinking and procedure applies to the Adobe Flash Players - in a 64-bit OS both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions should be installed - for the same reason given above.

Edited by DesertJerry, 23 October 2010 - 02:44 AM.

[Cristiano]

in fact, the x64 version is only required if the user runs an browser that is x64. so far i know, the default browser under x64 systems is still x86. also, if we deploy both versions in the same module, someone could say that we are deploying things without the knowledge of the user. by me, i never will do that. as for flash player x64, it is still preview release

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[DesertJerry]

Cristiano, on 23 October 2010 - 10:43 AM, said:

in fact, the x64 version is only required if the user runs an browser that is x64. so far i know, the default browser under x64 systems is still x86. also, if we deploy both versions in the same module, someone could say that we are deploying things without the knowledge of the user. by me, i never will do that. as for flash player x64, it is still preview release[]s

In a 64-bit system there are two browsers installed: one in \Program Files\Internet Explorer (the 64-bit version) and one in \Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer (the 32-bit version). Users are capable of selecting either for use. I'm not sure why you say the 32-bit is the default - I have not had it act that way. If the 64-bit version has been invoked and the user selects Microsoft Update - an error nessage appears saying to switch to the 32-bit version - is that what you're assuming is the default?

Anyway, because both versions are available to any user than knows where to look it only makes sense to offer both Java runtimes - just list them as separate items: 32-bit for one and 64-bit for the other.

Same for Adobe Flash if/when it goes final for the 64-bit version.

[Cristiano]

> I'm not sure why you say the 32-bit is the default
because the one that runs when you hit any link in a software (like msn) is the x86 version. also, the one that has the shortcuts set by default is the x86 version. in fact, x64 systems comes with both versions, but if you wanna run the x64 version, you have to look for it, since the one that is under everyone face is the x86 version

> is that what you're assuming is the default?
that also

> just list them as separate items: 32-bit for one and 64-bit for the other
for sure. that is the way that is being done. the only one thing that happens is that the user has to select it to be installed. so, if the user has an x64 system and doesn't wish deploy the x64 version for certain softwares, he will not. by other hand, if an user that is running x64 and is running an x64 browser wishes deploy both, then all that the user needs to do is check an extra module to be installed

> Same for Adobe Flash if/when it goes final for the 64-bit version
for sure

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[click-click]

Is there an AP download for java6u23?

6u23 has been out for a while now. The final ended up being build 05

Edited by click-click, 01 December 2010 - 11:34 PM.

[_def_x_]

hmm, I'm still getting v6u22 here - http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp - are you sure that is a final release and not still beta?

[click-click]

I guess Sun is taking their time updating the website. I believe B05 is the one that is supposed to be released. I did not realize that Sun had not updated yet. Next time, I hope I can remember to check the official download site.

[Black Ghost]

Sun Java Runtime Environment 6 Update 23 now out.

[Cristiano]

where, please? in here all that i can see is v6u22. but i do know that u23 b05 is out there

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[Black Ghost]

Try here.

http://www.oracle.co...jsp-138363.html

[Cristiano]

ok, i'm downloading it. later i will try find an more direct download link for that ones

thanks

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[DesertJerry]

Both 32- and 64-bit versions were updated to 23.

[Cristiano]

yes, and i've downloaded both versions already. the md5 doesn't match with b5 and my attempt to find an direct link for it has failed. i will try a few more things before rest it. by the way: since java website us to be out of date, but yet this one is more suitable for some people, someone is against to keep the modules for u22 for those that wish keep downloading from java website?

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[click-click]

The 6u23 version mentioned by Black Ghost is from the Oracle SDN (Sun Developer Network) and does not contain the google toolbar in the installer. The installer I previously mentioned contains the toolbar and most likely the reason for the md5 sum difference. jre-6u23-windows-i586.exe is without toolbar and jre-6u23-windows-i586-s.exe has the optional toolbar. The -s version will be available once the default download site is updated.

Edited by click-click, 09 December 2010 - 12:42 AM.

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So, is JaveSE the same as JavaJRE now? 'SE' has been updated 'JRE' has not as far as I can see...? If you follow the Java links from Here!...

JavaSE points to v6u23 which is where post #133 also leads /// JavaJRE still points to v6u22

Also, we have had the 'toolbar' versus 'no toolbar' discussion before, if I remember it wasn't a consistant theory. Since it is easier for users to simply install Java on their own I'll wait and use the old link when it gets updated - seems the easiest thing to do.

Edited by gUiTaR_mIkE, 09 December 2010 - 12:39 AM.

[Cristiano]

may be my mistake, but the JRE link says this:
Java software for your computer, or the Java Runtime Environment, is also referred to as the Java Runtime, Runtime Environment, Runtime, JRE, Java Virtual Machine, Virtual Machine, Java VM, JVM, VM, or Java download.

while:
Java Platform, Standard Edition has an link stating that it has 2 versions: JDK and JRE. the JRE link goes to u23. if the first link says that is also JRE, both are the same, right? but it may be just me, a lot confused with the way that SUN/ORACLE etc names it...

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[Cristiano]

for those that wish download from ORACLE, attached to this post yours will find java_jre_x64_u23.zip and java_jre_u23.zip. if you wish use those instead the version that can be downloaded from java.com, please remove the old files first, then browse to this link, choose download JRE, select your platform (windows, for the x86 version and/or windows x64 for the x64 version). don't forget to check "i agree" and then choose jre-6u23-windows-i586.exe for the x86 version and jre-6u23-windows-x64.exe for the x64 version

all the executables shall be saved into modules\AddOns\SunJava_x86_files

don't forget: if you mix old versions with the current one, your release will turn into unofficial

java_jre_u23.zip
java_jre_x64_u23.zip

just an warning: the standard download site is still java.com. the modules for those that download from ORACLE is just an convenience, nothing more than that

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